Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5
Roberto J Dohnert
robertdohnert at gmail.com
Fri Feb 7 21:39:26 UTC 2014
I dont think at this point it is realistic as well considering we havent
gotten a release date and no one has heard a word from the XFCE team
about it.
Roberto J. Dohnert
Lead Developer
Black Lab Linux
http://www.blacklablinux.org
On 02/07/2014 03:09 PM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> If there is enough interest and motivation from the community
> (including people who can actually help with the SRU), it can be
> discussed. As Jackson, I don't personally think it as a realistic
> thing to do at the moment either.
>
> Pasi
>
> On 07/02/14 22:03, Jackson Doak wrote:
>> 4.12 will be difficult to get to 14.04, let alone backporting it all
>> the way to precise
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Roberto J Dohnert
>> <robertdohnert at gmail.com <mailto:robertdohnert at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Aside from the trusty enablment stack, the only other compelling
>> piece would be XFCE 4.12, which I cant seem to get a precise, no
>> pun intended, release date. Releasing the trusty kernel through
>> updates would be optimal. Of course, we, the Black Lab Linux
>> team, are supporting 12.04 for two years past the scheduled
>> Ubuntu support date until 2019. So, we may do a 14.10 stack as
>> our last major release, we may work on that for Xubuntu as well.
>> But that will be determined on where 14.04 LTS is at that time.
>>
>> Roberto J. Dohnert
>> Lead Developer
>> Black Lab Linux
>> http://www.blacklablinux.org
>>
>> On 02/07/2014 02:30 PM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
>>> If we don't need to update the ISO really, we can just release
>>> 12.04.5 as is, with the updates that have landed to Ubuntu core
>>> after .4. On the other hand, if there is something we want in,
>>> it's another possibility to get stuff in an ISO, not just updates.
>>>
>>> I would note that there is only 1 year left of Xubuntu support
>>> for 12.04, so not sure if it makes any difference to land big
>>> SRU's now, since people need to upgrade to 14.04 somewhat
>>> shortly anyway.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Pasi
>>>
>>> On 07/02/14 20:12, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote:
>>>> FYI
>>>>
>>>> How does this align with our planning?
>>>>
>>>> Stephen Michael Kellat
>>>> In the basement cafeteria on lunch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Leann Ogasawara <leann.ogasawara at canonical.com
>>>>> <mailto:leann.ogasawara at canonical.com>>
>>>>> *Date:* February 7, 2014, 11:00:12 AM EST
>>>>> *To:* ubuntu-release at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>> <mailto:ubuntu-release at lists.ubuntu.com>,
>>>>> ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>> <mailto:ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* *[RFC] 12.04.5*
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the
>>>>> idea of having a 12.04.5 point release for Precise.
>>>>>
>>>>> As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point releases have shipped
>>>>> with a newer kernel and X stack by default for hardware
>>>>> enablement purposes. Maintainers of these enablement stacks
>>>>> have agreed to support these until a Trusty based enablement
>>>>> stack is supported in Precise. Once a Trusty enablement stack
>>>>> is supported, all previous enablement stacks would EOL and be
>>>>> asked to migrate to the final Trusty based enablement stack
>>>>> which would continue to be supported for the remaining life of
>>>>> Precise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, 12.04.4 is our final point release for Precise.
>>>>> 12.04.4 shipped with a Saucy enablement stack by default.
>>>>> This Saucy enablement stack in Precise will eventually EOL in
>>>>> favor of the Trusty enablement stack. Once that happens, our
>>>>> final point release for Precise will be delivering an EOL'd
>>>>> enablement stack. This seems unfortunate and inappropriate.
>>>>> I would like to propose having a 5th point release for
>>>>> Precise which would deliver the Trusty enablement stack for
>>>>> Precise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Providing a 12.04.5 point release will add no additional
>>>>> maintenance burden upon teams supporting enablement stacks in
>>>>> Precise. It would require some extra effort on part of the
>>>>> Canonical Foundations Team as well as the Ubuntu Release Team
>>>>> to spin up an additional set of images and testing
>>>>> coordination etc. However, I informally discussed this with a
>>>>> few members of each of those teams and the tentative agreement
>>>>> was that 12.04.5 was a reasonable request which could be
>>>>> accommodated. Collectively we could find no compelling reason
>>>>> to not provide 12.04.5. We also discussed that a 12.04.5
>>>>> release should be optional for the Flavors to participate in.
>>>>> Additionally, we would want to purposely avoid clashing the
>>>>> 14.04.1 and 12.04.5 release dates and would suggest releasing
>>>>> 14.04.1 first and 12.04.5 after (exact date TBD).
>>>>>
>>>>> What are other's thoughts here? Does anyone have a compelling
>>>>> reason for not providing a 12.04.5 point release?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Leann
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