Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5

Pasi Lallinaho pasi at shimmerproject.org
Fri Feb 7 20:09:29 UTC 2014

If there is enough interest and motivation from the community (including
people who can actually help with the SRU), it can be discussed. As
Jackson, I don't personally think it as a realistic thing to do at the
moment either.


On 07/02/14 22:03, Jackson Doak wrote:
> 4.12 will be difficult to get to 14.04, let alone backporting it all
> the way to precise
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Roberto J Dohnert
> <robertdohnert at gmail.com <mailto:robertdohnert at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Aside from the trusty enablment stack, the only other compelling
>     piece would be XFCE 4.12, which I cant seem to get a precise, no
>     pun intended, release date.  Releasing the trusty kernel through
>     updates would be optimal.  Of course, we, the Black Lab Linux
>     team, are supporting 12.04 for two years past the scheduled Ubuntu
>     support date until 2019.  So, we may do a 14.10 stack as our last
>     major release, we may work on that for Xubuntu as well.  But that
>     will be determined on where 14.04 LTS is at that time.
>     Roberto J. Dohnert
>     Lead Developer
>     Black Lab Linux
>     http://www.blacklablinux.org
>     On 02/07/2014 02:30 PM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
>>     If we don't need to update the ISO really, we can just release
>>     12.04.5 as is, with the updates that have landed to Ubuntu core
>>     after .4. On the other hand, if there is something we want in,
>>     it's another possibility to get stuff in an ISO, not just updates.
>>     I would note that there is only 1 year left of Xubuntu support
>>     for 12.04, so not sure if it makes any difference to land big
>>     SRU's now, since people need to upgrade to 14.04 somewhat shortly
>>     anyway.
>>     Cheers,
>>     Pasi
>>     On 07/02/14 20:12, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote:
>>>     FYI
>>>     How does this align with our planning?
>>>     Stephen Michael Kellat 
>>>     In the basement cafeteria on lunch
>>>     Begin forwarded message:
>>>>     *From:* Leann Ogasawara <leann.ogasawara at canonical.com
>>>>     <mailto:leann.ogasawara at canonical.com>>
>>>>     *Date:* February 7, 2014, 11:00:12 AM EST
>>>>     *To:* ubuntu-release at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>     <mailto:ubuntu-release at lists.ubuntu.com>,
>>>>     ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>     <mailto:ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>     *Subject:* *[RFC] 12.04.5*
>>>>     Hi All,
>>>>     With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea
>>>>     of having a 12.04.5 point release for Precise.
>>>>     As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point releases have shipped
>>>>     with a newer kernel and X stack by default for hardware
>>>>     enablement purposes.  Maintainers of these enablement stacks
>>>>     have agreed to support these until a Trusty based enablement
>>>>     stack is supported in Precise.  Once a Trusty enablement stack
>>>>     is supported, all previous enablement stacks would EOL and be
>>>>     asked to migrate to the final Trusty based enablement stack
>>>>     which would continue to be supported for the remaining life of
>>>>     Precise.
>>>>     Currently, 12.04.4 is our final point release for Precise.
>>>>      12.04.4 shipped with a Saucy enablement stack by default.
>>>>      This Saucy enablement stack in Precise will eventually EOL in
>>>>     favor of the Trusty enablement stack.  Once that happens, our
>>>>     final point release for Precise will be delivering an EOL'd
>>>>     enablement stack.  This seems unfortunate and inappropriate.  I
>>>>     would like to propose having a 5th point release for Precise
>>>>     which would deliver the Trusty enablement stack for Precise.
>>>>     Providing a 12.04.5 point release will add no additional
>>>>     maintenance burden upon teams supporting enablement stacks in
>>>>     Precise.  It would require some extra effort on part of the
>>>>     Canonical Foundations Team as well as the Ubuntu Release Team
>>>>     to spin up an additional set of images and testing coordination
>>>>     etc.  However, I informally discussed this with a few members
>>>>     of each of those teams and the tentative agreement was that
>>>>     12.04.5 was a reasonable request which could be accommodated.
>>>>      Collectively we could find no compelling reason to not provide
>>>>     12.04.5.  We also discussed that a 12.04.5 release should be
>>>>     optional for the Flavors to participate in.  Additionally, we
>>>>     would want to purposely avoid clashing the 14.04.1 and 12.04.5
>>>>     release dates and would suggest releasing 14.04.1 first and
>>>>     12.04.5 after (exact date TBD).
>>>>     What are other's thoughts here?  Does anyone have a compelling
>>>>     reason for not providing a 12.04.5 point release?
>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>     Leann
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