Feedback on desktop convergence changes

George DiceGeorge dicegeorge at
Wed Aug 20 20:03:13 UTC 2014

But as phones get more powerful wont it become more common to connect them to big screen and keyboard somehow (maybe via usb to a pc) and then control the phone software with mouse keyboard and big display? And conversely I want to control my desktop computer to play movies on a big screen via my phone when I’m in bed. This could be an argument for convergence.

From: Peter Rauhut 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August, 2014 15:56
To: xubuntu-devel at 
Subject: Re: Feedback on desktop convergence changes

Even if we remove the concern about where Unity will go, convergence of Phone/Tablet and Desktop code means that all changes that are made for the phone/tablet must take the Desktop into account and vice-verse. Phones and tablets are essentially used in the same way and making design and technical decisions for those type of environments to match is fine. 

However, desktop environments are used in a very different way. The decisions that are made for a desktop environment should not be limited by how it will affect a phone/tablet. My opinion is that these two different things should remain separate.

On 8/20/14, 9:01 AM, Alistair Buxton wrote:

On 19 August 2014 22:19, Michael Hall mailto:mhall119 at wrote:

The appearance of Unity on the desktop should remain functionally the
same (it'll get a visual update though). It will still function as a
desktop, the way Unity 7 does today.
I think the concern here is that the converged applications will be as
bad as Unity, and not that Unity itself will get any worse.

This does not affect Xubuntu however as we only use a couple of Ubuntu
applications which could easily be replaced if they go south.

A much bigger question is whether Xorg will continue to receive the
same level of maintenance as it does now, since there is very little
chance Xfce will be ported to Wayland at any time in the next two
years. (Since it would require a total rewrite and either the removal
of several features or a massive effort to reimplement the missing
required APIs in a cross-desktop way.)

Alistair Buxton
a.j.buxton at

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