Feedback on desktop convergence changes

Peter Rauhut dabeor at
Wed Aug 20 14:56:35 UTC 2014

Even if we remove the concern about where Unity will go, convergence of 
Phone/Tablet and Desktop code means that all changes that are made for 
the phone/tablet must take the Desktop into account and vice-verse. 
Phones and tablets are essentially used in the same way and making 
design and technical decisions for those type of environments to match 
is fine.

However, desktop environments are used in a very different way. The 
decisions that are made for a desktop environment should not be limited 
by how it will affect a phone/tablet. My opinion is that these two 
different things should remain separate.

On 8/20/14, 9:01 AM, Alistair Buxton wrote:
> On 19 August 2014 22:19, Michael Hall <mhall119 at> wrote:
>> The appearance of Unity on the desktop should remain functionally the
>> same (it'll get a visual update though). It will still function as a
>> desktop, the way Unity 7 does today.
> I think the concern here is that the converged applications will be as
> bad as Unity, and not that Unity itself will get any worse.
> This does not affect Xubuntu however as we only use a couple of Ubuntu
> applications which could easily be replaced if they go south.
> A much bigger question is whether Xorg will continue to receive the
> same level of maintenance as it does now, since there is very little
> chance Xfce will be ported to Wayland at any time in the next two
> years. (Since it would require a total rewrite and either the removal
> of several features or a massive effort to reimplement the missing
> required APIs in a cross-desktop way.)
> --
> Alistair Buxton
> a.j.buxton at

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