Setting up a xubuntu-team mailing list

Elfy ub.untu at
Fri Apr 25 17:26:12 UTC 2014

Some comments in line
On 24/04/14 23:26, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> Hello there,
> during the meeting today [1] there was some discussion to set up a new,
> low-traffic, high-importance list for the Xubuntu team. Only team
> members could post to the list, but everybody could subscribe to read
> the list.
> Topics and tasks for the list would include:
>   * Voting on project-related questions (currently done during the meetings)

This should only be members of -team anyway (relates to a later point)
>   * Announcing meeting minutes and monthly team reports

Shouldn't those be for the Xubuntu Community
>   * Calls for testing, or request for other input

This will not work with regard to -qa - we use more than just the dev 
list to call for testing. Also get more response to calls from testing 
from those people than anyone in -team.

We'd have to get people to subscribe to a new list - that likely 
wouldn't be of much use - just to get testing calls.
>   * Other important project announcements

These should be announced to the Xubuntu Community,
> Some of the pros of setting up this new list include:
>   * The team is currently heavily organized in IRC, moving more of the
> important communication to a low-traffic mailing list could make
> contributing less exclusive
>   * A low traffic list would be easier to read for the team members as
> well as other people digging up decicions and important milestones later
These points are the ones that made me think of this in the first place.

Communication between us in the last cycle left something to be desired 
- my original thoughts re this new list relate to that only, side 
benefits being inclusiveness re meetings - during the last cycle we were 
lucky if we got a third of the team there at meetings.

Though opening up a new list to more than the things that -team need to 
discuss will soon negate that 'pro'
> There are some potential caveats to the new list:
>   * Subject/topic partly overlaps with the current developer list
Not if we work it properly it won't.
>   * Not allowing people who aren't team members could make the list seem
> exclusive (though commenting on issues would still be possible on the
> development list)
Some things are exclusive
> Alternative options include:
>   * Start using a speficic "tag" for the aforementioned communication
> (and possibly automoderate non-team members' posts with that tag)
Not at all sure how a tag will help.

All that means is that a mail that people are ignoring has a tag - and 
it's still hidden in the list and the mists of time.
>   * Increase the strictness of the moderation in the developer list to
> make it lower traffic and more relevant (con: probably affects list
> atmosphere and makes the thresold to post too(?) high)
I'm not sure that this will help to increase communication - which /is/ 
what my proposal was about.
> I hope we can get all the issues raised before the next meeting, and
> that everybody would have some kind of opinion before the next meeting
> in two weeks. Start discussing!
> Cheers,
> Pasi
> [1]
This does all I suppose depend to some extent on what we do with regard 
to Trello, if we go that way then a mailing list will likely be unnecessary.

It's certainly a lot easier to work with that - and see the current 
status of something that trawling a mailing list.


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