I would like to join the web dev team

Pasi Lallinaho pasi at shimmerproject.org
Tue May 28 14:49:10 UTC 2013

Hey Kyle (readding Xubuntu-devel to "To", please keep it with any
messages you're sending, especially if you want to get feedback from "all"),

The main problem with that kind of navigation setup is that it isn't
trivial to support variable amount of links. To be honest, that's been a
bit of burden with the current "graphical" links as well, and I want to
get away from that. Since the links are here in the navigation, I don't
think there's any need to repeat them again on the right hand side.

I don't think the "Desktop of the Week" -section should get that much
focus. (And generally, if you're not using the area left and right to an
element, why not just stretch it to 100% width, especially when there is
a known max width for the layout?)

Other than that, the layout is pretty much what we have now on production.


On 28/05/13 16:43, Kyle Sabara wrote:
> Here's like a plan that I made by cutting and pasting around the
> different parts of a screenshot. What do you all think?
> Inline image 1
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Kyle Sabara <nyguy97 at gmail.com
> <mailto:nyguy97 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     I think it looks good!
>     On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Pasi Lallinaho
>     <pasi at shimmerproject.org <mailto:pasi at shimmerproject.org>> wrote:
>         Hey Kyle (and others),
>         I was able to work on the website refresh yesterday and
>         there's now a mockup of navigation. Currently, it looks like
>         this: http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/saucy_website/newnavi.png
>         This is in no way final, so please send your ideas if you
>         think you can improve.
>         Cheers,
>         Pasi
>         On 27/05/13 05:37, Kyle Sabara wrote:
>>         Thanks for the information, I guess I'll start thinking up
>>         some ideas for a navbar. I really hope to gain some valuable
>>         experience. Again, thank you!
>>         On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Pasi Lallinaho
>>         <pasi at shimmerproject.org <mailto:pasi at shimmerproject.org>> wrote:
>>             Hey Kyle,
>>             I'm adding the Xubuntu-devel mailing list to the
>>             recipients, since that's where we cooperate development
>>             discussion for Xubuntu.
>>             Comments inline.
>>             On 25/05/13 18:50, Kyle Sabara wrote:
>>                 Hello,
>>                       My name is Kyle Sabara and I would like to work
>>                 with your Xubuntu
>>                 web team.
>>             First of all, thanks for your interest!
>>                 I'm 15 but I can assure you I know how to code CSS
>>                 and HTML5.
>>                 I hold 2 certifications, one in Adobe Photoshop CS5,
>>                 as well as one in
>>                 Adobe Dreamweaver CS5. I'd like to also note that I
>>                 am going for my
>>                 Adobe Flash CS5 certification and hope to get it
>>                 soon. I like linux and
>>                 most important to me is the XFCE flavor that I do run
>>                 on an old PC. I do
>>                 have some works on the web, in fact I'm going to
>>                 Nationals in California
>>                 this year for FBLA in the Web Design event. I know,
>>                 you think just
>>                 because I have a Dreamweaver certification means I
>>                 don't actually know
>>                 how to code what-so-ever, but I actually always code
>>                 with Notepad++
>>                 because I don't like the drag and drop software
>>                 environment that
>>                 Dreamweaver creates, along with the annoying bugs you
>>                 sometimes have to
>>                 comb your document for.
>>             Don't worry; we don't judge people based on their age or
>>             certificates they may or may not have. All contributions
>>             are welcome as long as they make sense and the community
>>             can agree on the results they bring with them.
>>                 I already have a couple ways for integration of
>>                 social networking
>>                 into your site. One way would be to add a Twitter app
>>                 where you have
>>                 Xubuntu Twitter Feed on your site, perhaps on the
>>                 homepage? Another
>>                 thing you can add to increase Xubuntu's networking
>>                 would be to add a
>>                 Facebook Like button, a Google+ button, and a Twitter
>>                 button if you will
>>                 which I'm not sure if you know this but a Twitter
>>                 button is included on
>>                 the Twitter Feed you can integrate.
>>             This is something the web/marketing/Xubuntu team should
>>             discuss in general.
>>             So far we haven't specifically worked to get much of the
>>             social networking showing on the site. This is partly
>>             because we only recently set up most of the social
>>             networking sites. On the other hand, while the social
>>             networking outlets are "official", they are community-run
>>             and we aren't controlling their content too much. While
>>             we trust the administrators, it's not certain that all
>>             communication and comments made on the social networks is
>>             something we want to automatically integrate to our website.
>>             If we decide to add things like this, it should be easy
>>             enough with existing WordPress plugins.
>>                 Also, I'd like to point out that you guys don't
>>                 really have a full
>>                 navigation bar on your site making a lack in usability.
>>             We are constantly working on the site and even as I write
>>             this mail, we're under process for improvements on the
>>             site. However, all feedback is welcome: do you have any
>>             mockups or ideas for the navigation bar?
>>                 Another
>>                 suggestion I have is that you can add more pictures
>>                 to your site in the
>>                 tour and inside the changing image slider on the
>>                 homepage; because
>>                 people really want to see you glorify the project and
>>                 most of all,
>>                 potential users need to know the look and feel of the
>>                 software, and
>>                 pictures of the Xubuntu user interface are a good way
>>                 to go.
>>             I agree!
>>             As long as somebody takes more screenshots which are
>>             recent, we're good to add them. In addition, we're
>>             working to make the frontpage slider images slightly
>>             bigger with the next website update.
>>                 I hope some
>>                 of these ideas show some of the creative skills I can
>>                 contribute to the
>>                 team.
>>                       I feel like getting involved in this project
>>                  can help me build a
>>                 portfolio and help me in my future.I am a technology
>>                 enthusiast and I
>>                 love coding HTML. I don't claim to know everything
>>                 but I would love to
>>                 expand my knowledge by contributing some work for an
>>                 open source
>>                 organization where anyone can get involved and share
>>                 ideas.
>>             Open source can definitely help with your CV as long as
>>             it isn't your only (or primary) goal.
>>                 Thank you again for taking time out of your lives to
>>                 read this
>>                 statement.
>>                 Sincerely,
>>                 Kyle Sabara
>>             About joining teams and getting access to resources: we
>>             generally have a "contributions before membership"
>>             policy. In other words, start following development
>>             discussions, get familiar with the community processes
>>             and people and when you've been around a while, get your
>>             hands dirty [1].
>>             Welcome to our community!
>>             Cheers,
>>             Pasi
>>             [1] http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
>>             -- 
>>             Pasi Lallinaho (knome)                      »
>>             http://open.knome.fi/
>>             Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu       »
>>             http://shimmerproject.org/
>>             Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member  »
>>             http://xubuntu.org/
>         -- 
>         Pasi Lallinaho (knome)                      » http://open.knome.fi/
>         Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu       » http://shimmerproject.org/
>         Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member  » http://xubuntu.org/

Pasi Lallinaho (knome)                      » http://open.knome.fi/
Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu       » http://shimmerproject.org/
Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member  » http://xubuntu.org/

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