Wow, Introduction, and Wine

Jackson Doak doak.jackson at gmail.com
Tue Mar 26 02:38:18 UTC 2013


wine is huge, and is updated to frequently to be a proper default program.
i forget the rest of the reasons, but someone will know.


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Colorwheel OS <djs at colorwheel-os.com>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I forked a few things to respin a distro off Xubuntu 12.04 back in
> January, and a few days ago I signed on to help with testing Xubuntu 13.04
> as a way of "giving back". However, now I am probably going to say goodbye
> to the respin and focus on testing 13.04 and getting it off the ground.
> It's almost like with 13.04 (I hated 12.10, which overheated my laptop) a
> wishlist of mine was completed (no point in respinning a distro that has
> everything you need on it): So first let me note why I love this beta
> already and why I totally see it growing the userbase:
>
>    1. With Gnumeric the office suite is there-- granted I am no friend of
>    AbiWord (I actually use a tiny Windows word processor anyway that works
>    better on the system) so I agree with the poster about LibreOffice from a
>    couple months ago-- but I get the size thing, and it's easy enough to
>    change (Anyone try LO4? It's great!)
>    2. Parole is just a great media player. It's low memory and efficient,
>    and frankly it's my preferred media player.
>    3. Starting with Greybird for the menu configuration is so much nicer
>    for people coming from a Windows environment. It just looks nice. I would
>    prefer starting the menu on the bottom, not the top (I am not a Mac
>    anything fan) but it's easy enough to fix.
>    4. Since you guys are adding backgrounds--THANK YOU. The new Xubuntu
>    default background is SO much better than 12.04's as well. It's dark, but
>    generic enough that it isn't off-putting. 12.04's was a little too erm,
>    "slasher movie" and there's nothing that can be done about a rodent being
>    the distro logo, though in my neighborhood I wouldn't want one of those as
>    my mascot. New backgrounds. Bright colors. Do it!
>    5. Xfce 4.10 is great as is Thunar. Gimp 4.8 is defaulted. And the new
>    HPLIP software is there, which covers their newest printers (that's what
>    finally sold me on going beta and testing in the first place-- some of HP's
>    new printers (like the OfficeJet 4620) cannot work on 12.04, and to my
>    knowledge, 12.10 neither.
>
> In other words, almost anything that could be improved about Xubuntu is
> being rolled out in 13.04 -- except the elephant in the room:
>
> *Wine.*
>
> Wine works excellently with X 13.04 already. If you are going to up the
> distro to a little under 1GB put Wine on it. It's really the last piece of
> a puzzle that will give Windows users a real alternative that's efficient.
>
> The only other thing I would suggest (which would free up some space) is
> to switch to the Lubuntu Software Center and GDebi. It's just a better
> setup. The USC is just too unwieldy. Yes, it works ok on my machine, till
> I'm running 10 programs. After that I find myself switching to Google for a
> program name and apt-get. If you guys HAVE to have a big giant software
> center, Deepin is much nicer looking, even though it's terrible for
> netbooks (doesn't resize well).
>
> Other than that, I am so glad 13.04 is here, even in beta. It's great, and
> while I am sad to see I have no reason to do a respin (I kind of liked
> having my "very own OS", I am still working on my new GUI idea, and it's
> clear Cairo-dock is going to have some testing issues (it seems to not
> recognize horizontal location in XFCE now). I did discover that the update
> process (I was using terminal to update since there was an issue with
> software-center-- kudos to the fixer!) asks in a prompt about the gnome
> defaults, and if you kill that process it will put a package lock a reboot
> wont fix-- need to delete the lock and configure dpkg again. But I will go
> back to bug checking and just a note with a big thanks, and a couple
> suggestions!
>
> Thank you,
> Dcn Joseph Suaiden, Crozier Press
> the artiste most likely soon formerly known as "Colorwheel"
>
> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 8:00 AM, <xubuntu-devel-request at lists.ubuntu.com>wrote:
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 14:01:33 +0000
>> From: Thomas Molloy <lderan at outlook.com>
>> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: RE: Beta 1 testing.
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>> Aye, i would like to help out as much as i can as well. Though i have no
>> experience with packaging yet. I can program comfortably in C++
>>
>> Tom
>> ________________________________
>> From: Joshua O'Leary<mailto:jmoey139 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: ?22/?03/?2013 22:01
>> To: xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com<mailto:xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: Beta 1 testing.
>>
>> What areas does the Xubuntu team particularly need help with at the
>> moment? I can do some programming in C, though haven't yet fully got the
>> hang of packaging etc. I don't mind doing occasional tests of the live
>> images when I have time (have started to do this), I have an old
>> computer with a hard drive spare. Are there any other areas in need of
>> contribution? Xubuntu is great, really unlocks the potential of any PC,
>> and I wouldn't mind helping out where I can.
>>
>> Joshua
>> On 11/03/13 23:52, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote:
>> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Jackson Doak <doak.jackson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> could everyone start testing the beta 1 images
>> > The beta1 images have been spun up for testing, so you'll want to use
>> > this link to test:
>> >
>> > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds
>> >
>> > We've also published a blog post with some pointers about testing:
>> >
>> > http://xubuntu.org/news/want-to-help-out-xubuntu-test-raring/
>> >
>> > Thanks everyone!
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>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 20:08:49 +0000
>> From: Joshua O'Leary <jmoey139 at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: Beta 1 testing.
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>> I think the build system really ought to be more streamlined - the
>> package management itself is great, but the build process involves the
>> calling of so many scripts that I'm sure there'd be a performance hit. A
>> new build system would make development easier, though would be no easy
>> task...
>> On 23/03/13 14:01, Thomas Molloy wrote:
>> > Aye, i would like to help out as much as i can as well. Though i have
>> > no experience with packaging yet. I can program comfortably in C++
>> >
>> > Tom
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > From: Joshua O'Leary <mailto:jmoey139 at gmail.com>
>> > Sent: ?22/?03/?2013 22:01
>> > To: xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:
>> xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> > Subject: Re: Beta 1 testing.
>> >
>> > What areas does the Xubuntu team particularly need help with at the
>> > moment? I can do some programming in C, though haven't yet fully got the
>> > hang of packaging etc. I don't mind doing occasional tests of the live
>> > images when I have time (have started to do this), I have an old
>> > computer with a hard drive spare. Are there any other areas in need of
>> > contribution? Xubuntu is great, really unlocks the potential of any PC,
>> > and I wouldn't mind helping out where I can.
>> >
>> > Joshua
>> > On 11/03/13 23:52, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Jackson Doak
>> > <doak.jackson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> could everyone start testing the beta 1 images
>> > > The beta1 images have been spun up for testing, so you'll want to use
>> > > this link to test:
>> > >
>> > > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds
>> > >
>> > > We've also published a blog post with some pointers about testing:
>> > >
>> > > http://xubuntu.org/news/want-to-help-out-xubuntu-test-raring/
>> > >
>> > > Thanks everyone!
>> > >
>> >
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