Xubuntu features that users like

Pasi Lallinaho pasi at shimmerproject.org
Wed Apr 24 21:20:41 UTC 2013

Since we are talking about the Strategy Document, please let me remind 
that performance is still one of our focuses. Just not in the same way 
than before.

In my opinion, the ultimate question about any new feature or inclusion 
is if it's worth using the extra system resources for that. And that 
again is something that the Xubuntu team should discuss and decide on 
using the Strategy Document as their guide.


On 24/04/13 20:39, Bruno Benitez wrote:
> In our voted and accepted strategy document we state:
> "Xubuntu does not explicitly target users with low, modest, or high 
> powered machines but instead targets the entire spectrum. Xubuntu's 
> extra responsiveness and speed, among other positive traits, can be 
> appreciated by all users, regardless of their hardware."[1]
> I sincerely think we should not focus on "old/low specs" machines. I 
> don't think that would help xubuntu in the imminent future.
> Having default applications that run smoothly and are simple but 
> powerful its awesome, but we already know, and it was discussed to 
> death before that people usually just apt-gets the applications they 
> like most almost immediately after installing xubuntu.
> stuff like default media player, default text editor, default office 
> suite, default web browser are usually very personal and changes from 
> person to person.
> But the poeple who develops xubuntu might want to consider taking what 
> its best of the rest of ubuntu, stuff like HUD are awesome, it makes 
> the system more modern and brings more power to the users hands, while 
> not taking the whole unity road and using HUD to take lots of other 
> stuff from the user. Unity its not pretty. HUD is.
> But again, thats my opinion and I might be alone here.
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument
> 2013/4/24 Eero Tamminen <oak at helsinkinet.fi <mailto:oak at helsinkinet.fi>>
>     Hi,
>     On keskiviikko 24 huhtikuu 2013, Bruno Benitez wrote:
>     > Yes, HUD integration might increase system load, but would that harm
>     > much? i think not.
>     On several years old laptop with Intel IGP, Unity and Gnome3
>     desktop performance is clearly subpar [1], while Xubuntu works
>     fine.
>     I would say that compositing desktop starts to perform well enough
>     when one has something like desktop i3 IGP with at least 2GB (system)
>     RAM.  If you have something older & slower, especially with mobile
>     version of IGP, or less RAM, it's uncomfortably slow.
>     There's also increasing number of ARM devices, tablets and things
>     like rPi
>     (which run at ~1Ghz and have 0.5 - 1GB of RAM).   While these can run
>     current Xubuntu fairly comfortably, compositing desktops are not that
>     good match for them, because of compositing memory overhead [1],
>     especially
>     for larger resolution (HDTV) desktops, and window sizes on such
>     desktops.
>             - Eero
>     [1] It's a bit funny when people so lightly suggest adding
>     non-optional
>         compositing memory overhead to Xubuntu when people obsess
>     about gnome
>         library dependencies, which memory impact would be smaller than
>         the memory overhead from composited windows...
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> Bruno.-

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