only 1 panel by default in order to save space on screen

John Webster civil at
Sun Apr 7 11:13:55 UTC 2013

I don't disagree with the fundamental aim of optimising the use of 
screen space on 16:10 format displays, especially on tablets and 
ultrabooks. You might be surprised at the level of complexity that we 
seniors can accommodate when we need to get the job done ...

On 07/04/13 20:53, Jérôme Bouat wrote:
> I think the 2nd panel is also more complex to understand for a senior.
> Le 27/03/2013 20:01, Thiago Cangussu a écrit :
>> Hi,
>> I agree is better save usable space in desktop than wasting this 
>> precious space with panels, bars or something else and I think this 
>> is why Xubuntu has 2 panels: 1 visible top panel and 1 hidden bottom 
>> panel. The hidden bottom panel is usefull to launch my favorite apps 
>> and make me more productive and doesn't waste space because it's 
>> hidden by default, so any app can take all usable space in desktop.
>> So I think this way (Xubuntu way: 2 panels, 1 visible and 1 hidden) 
>> is the best way to get both things: save space and get more 
>> productivity.
>> 2013/3/27 Jérôme Bouat <jerome.bouat at 
>> <mailto:jerome.bouat at>>
>>     Hello,
>>     During the later years tend computers screens to have a 16/10 
>> geometric ratio. At the same time, the desktop environments tend to 
>> decrease the usable space in height by using 2 panels instead of only 
>> 1 (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, ...).
>>     In order to save screen space in height, I think that the Xubuntu 
>> should provide only 1 panel by default like Microsoft Windows XP, 
>>     If you look at desktop applications like Firefox, the fashion is 
>> to replace the menubar by a single button besides the tabs of the web 
>> pages. Those applications try to save space although the desktop 
>> environment are wasting it by discouraging the use of a unique 
>> popup-menu (like start menu of Windows, K menu of KDE, ...).
>>     "Less is better."
>>     "Small is beautiful."

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