xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8/User Quality discussion

Ted Pomeroy ted.pome at gmail.com
Sun Jun 17 12:28:43 UTC 2012

Thank you to the the Users who added comments for the list. I am also
a user and non-developer. I am trying to interest others in using
Linux. I hope we have more emphasis on integrating humans into the
design. Thank you, Ted P.

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>    1. User feedback for Xubuntu QA meeting on Sunday, 17th of June
>       2012 (Dave)
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> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:16:39 +0100
> From: Dave <dave.hills.2009 at gmail.com>
> To: astraljava at kapsi.fi, xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: User feedback for Xubuntu QA meeting on Sunday, 17th of June
> 	2012
> Message-ID: <1339928199.2141.10.camel at Netbook>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:23:14 +0300
>> From: Janne Jokitalo <astraljava at kapsi.fi>
>> To: xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com, xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Xubuntu QA meeting on Sunday, 17th of June 2012
>> Message-ID: <20120614072314.GA12921 at lakka.kapsi.fi>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Hi gang,
>> this upcoming Sunday (17th of June) we're having the first QA process
>> development meeting for Xubuntu flavor. As a new QA lead, I'm interested
>> in
>> enhancing the way we're assuring that the product we're building during
>> the
>> development cycle performs at its best, preferably even during the
>> development.
>> For this, I'm looking to see assistance from all interested parties. That
>> means
>> YOU, too. :)
>> For starters, we have already begun the refining of testcases [0] for ISO
>> images. There are other work items currently on-going as well, and you
>> can
>> follow the progress of them at [1]. If there's anything you'd like to
>> discuss
>> about, the upcoming meeting is a perfect, but not the only, occasion to do
>> that.
>> At any time, you can address me or anyone from the Xubuntu Team about
>> anything
>> you have on your mind by chatting on our development IRC channel [2] or
>> by
>> writing to our development mailing list [3]
>> Other things relating to the quality that I'd like to see getting
>> improvements
>> over this cycle are:
>>   * Boot-time speed-up
>>   * Compositor usage
>> Currently these don't have specific blueprints, but we can either do
>> something
>> about that, or keep working on the issues despite the lack of such. We can
>> also
>> talk about this in the meeting, provided enough knowledgeable people are
>> present. If not, I'll raise the issue with other leads with the outcome of
>> the
>> meeting.
>> The list above does not by any means limit the topics of the conversation,
>> but I
>> do like to stress that this meeting isn't about adding new features or
>> functions
>> to the product that we're building. Its aim is to find issues, viewpoints
>> and
>> details that can be improved in the already existing components, or the
>> integration of them. The development team, however, is always willing to
>> discuss
>> topics outside the scope of this meeting in our already mentioned forums,
>> so
>> feel free to raise any issues, throw in wishes and hopes that you may
>> have, but
>> please do it on any other time than during this meeting. :)
>> But without further ado, I hope to see enthusiastic people willing to
>> contribute
>> to the quality of our fine flavor on Sunday. The meeting takes place on
>> our
>> development IRC channel [2], and you can check the exact time at [4].
>> Welcome!
>> [0]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Short
>> [1]:
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-xubuntu-qa-procedures
>> [2]: #xubuntu-devel @ irc.freenode.net
>> [3]: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
>> [4]:
>> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Xubuntu+QA+meeting&iso=20120617T16&ah=1&am=30
>> Best regards,
>> --
>> Jaska (astraljava on irc.freenode.net)
> Hi,
> I'm a new Xubuntu user (switch from Ubuntu-Unity) and would like to try
> and contribute, I'm not a software developer but think I could help with
> feedback as a user on the quality of the product and the quality of my
> 'user experience'. I have a Lenovo Netbook and an AM64 3200 based
> desktop. I have 3 hard disks for my Netbook which I swap out to try
> releases and creating partitions on my desktop is never a problem. Here
> is some feedback on my Xubuntu 12.04 experience, I didn't want to clog
> Launchpad with things which are my opinion so this forum is probably a
> good place for the developers to pick up anything worth while or direct
> me to raise it as a bug/improvement request.
> User Quality discussion points:
>      1. During the install here were no User icons to chose from, you
>         can only take a web-cam snap shot. A few icons to chose from
>         would be good.
>      2. The default screen saver and standby times are too short 10min
>         and 15 min, it was unnerving for the screen to go blank during
>         the install process. I have a particular HW issue that meant if
>         a left the install unattended I could not recover from standby
>         and had to restart the install process. I suggest screen saver
>         30min and standby 40 min defaults would be better.
>      3. In use on my Netbook it was noticeable that when operating from
>         battery, my hard-disk spun down immediately after use. This made
>         Xubuntu sluggish to use and also there was a worrying mechanical
>         noise from my hard-disk every time it was needed. I'm not sure
>         spinning down the hard-disk in this fashion actually saves power
>         as the torque/power required to spin it up may be more that that
>         required to keep it spinning at a constant speed. I would
>         suggest a option is proved to spin down hard-disks or not with a
>         time setting.
>      4. On completion of the 12.04 release install there were 108
>         updates to install ! This raises a question in the Users mind
>         regarding the quality of the release ISO ? Are the ISOs for
>         download maintained/ kept up to date ?
> Xubuntu Product Quality feedback:
>      1. The current release failed to install properly ?language
>         support?. There was an error window pop up on reboot. I presumed
>         this had been picked up during the formal testing.
>      2. I selected the encrypt home partition option during an install
>         last week and although a window dialogue box popped up post
>         install, this was behind the ?language support? window and went
>         away when I dismissed the ?language support? window. I've not
>         researched how to activate the encrypt home partition yet.
>      3. I had a crash post install of my Broadcom wireless driver, there
>         was already bug report logged, added affects me too.
>      4. I would suggest a home partition is implemented as default
>         during for the install.
>      5. I would suggest old N-1 Kernel images and related files are
>         deleted during an upgrade. The ?synaptic package manager? method
>         to remove them is not newbie or family member friendly. Over a
>         long period time they can occupy a significant amount of
>         hard-disk space.
> Best regards
> Dave
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