Webcam snapshot application (Cheese?)

Sat Dec 1 23:35:46 UTC 2012

Hello everyone,
I don't know if it has been brought up before, but what do you think of
shipping a webcam snapshot application such as Cheese?

Best regards,
Adnan Hajdarevic

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> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 02:17:01 +0530
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> From: Elfy <ub.untu at btinternet.com>
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> On 01/12/12 20:38, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> > Hello people,
> >
> > in the Quantal cycle, our community meetings used to take place on
> > Wednesdays at 15UTC.
> >
> > While we did use some time to schedule a time that works the best for
> > most, many times it looked like we didn't increase the amount of
> > participants from the previous cycles much.
> >
> > Without going too deeply in the rescheduling...
> >
> > Are other weekdays better, the same or worse than Wednesdays? I'd like
> > to propose Thursday at the same time, since that'd help us with the
> > weekly reporting with the release team. Also, at least for me, Thursdays
> > have been generally better than Wednesdays. We can shift the time, if
> > other meetings overlap, but I think 15 UTC is a good starting point.
> >
> > Please reply to this mail and tell me what do you think of the proposal.
> > Especially team leads (and Micah), speak up now. We need to be able to
> > sit down and communicate.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Pasi
> >
> Thursday is good for me two weeks in the month, that said any day is
> good for me two weeks in the month - so not going to make much
> difference to me.
>
> Elfy
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 13:12:37 -0800
> From: Elizabeth Krumbach <lyz at ubuntu.com>
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> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>
> wrote:
> > I'd like
> > to propose Thursday at the same time, since that'd help us with the
> > weekly reporting with the release team. Also, at least for me, Thursdays
> > have been generally better than Wednesdays. We can shift the time, if
> > other meetings overlap, but I think 15 UTC is a good starting point.
>
> That's fine with me. I'll set a special Thursday alarm to wake me up ;)
>
> --
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> http://www.princessleia.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:28:27 -0200
> From: Santiago Roland <sroland at lavabit.com>
> To: xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 86, Issue 10
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> A couple of things in my opinion that should be considered in future
> Xubuntu releases
>
> 1) VLC as default video player. In my experience, it is the only video
> player that never refused to reproduce a single video. The only time
> it failed was because the file was corrupted. I mean, any operating
> system must ship with a decent video player and Parole does not
> fulfill that. Parole get sucked for several seconds with any video
> MP4, AVI, etc and that is very annoying.
>
> 2) Libreoffice must be considered if decent compatibility is desired.
> It is a complete office suite that cannot be compared to
> abiword+gnumeric. Maybe there should be a minimal Xubuntu iso without
> this things, but for the everyday life, this things must be out of the box
>
> 3) Xubuntu should ship with a decent light color theme, not a dark
> one. It is demonstrated even with surveys that darker themes are
> harder to read. I pointed to some links a while ago, that i think
> nobody checked out. It's better for reading, it treats the eye pupil
> dilatation better and that it's well known by website designers. Every
> dark theme has applications that show very poor font contrast and even
> icon contrast. XFCE used to come with light color theme by default,
> and that should be restored again, maybe choosing theme could be
> implemented during installation? Default white, and if you want to
> your machine looks like FBI ones, change theme later. And the reason
> is that the people that like to tune up themes is more likely to have
> some skills the people that simply use the machine as is.
>
> 4) The Cairo-like toolbar should be avoided, is the intention to look
> like macOS? XFCE looks already fine with only one toolbar, up or
> down... cairo? leave that for people that want to tune up the appearence.
>
> 5) Music player should be Banshee by default, or some player that show
> album art, maybe gmusicbrowser with a less complicated layout. maybe
> emulate banshee layout with gmusicbrowser?
>
> 6) definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely need to improve GTK3
> support. The are NO themes that fully support GTK3? if i install apps,
> like evolution for email or USC or update manager i cannot use
> Clearlooks! it completely breaks the appearence for those apps. This
> is very wrong. maybe we can blame GTK imposition, but there has to be
> more supported GTK3 themes like Clearlooks and such. Not Adwaita, nor
> other theme fix this, windows look very different if they are gtk2 or
> gtk3.
>
> 7) what if Xubuntu ships larger that a CD? i installed Xubuntu in a P3
> 750 and i barely can navigate through webpages, the cpu is not enough
> for web browsing. Leave that for the Xubuntu minimal version....
> Xubuntu should hit high and compete with other desktops environments,
> it can and it is better in so many aspects.
>
> 8) Enable tabs in thunar, a decrypt file plugin, add the ability to
> show "properties" for several selected folders and add the ability to
> correctly eject usb pendrives because actually can no do that.
> Otherwise nautilus is needed. Or, change to nautilus default, but this
> is a bit insane and in this point i would use ubuntu then.
>
> Regards!
>
>
> - --
> - - --
> Santiago Roland.-
> - ------------------------------------
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> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 16:45:01 -0500
> From: Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com>
> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>,
>         sroland at lavabit.com
> Subject: Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 86, Issue 10
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> On Dec 1, 2012 4:29 PM, "Santiago Roland" <sroland at lavabit.com> wrote:
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> > A couple of things in my opinion that should be considered in future
> > Xubuntu releases
> >
> > 1) VLC as default video player. In my experience, it is the only video
> > player that never refused to reproduce a single video. The only time
> > it failed was because the file was corrupted. I mean, any operating
> > system must ship with a decent video player and Parole does not
> > fulfill that. Parole get sucked for several seconds with any video
> > MP4, AVI, etc and that is very annoying.
> >
> > 2) Libreoffice must be considered if decent compatibility is desired.
> > It is a complete office suite that cannot be compared to
> > abiword+gnumeric. Maybe there should be a minimal Xubuntu iso without
> > this things, but for the everyday life, this things must be out of the
> box
> >
> > 3) Xubuntu should ship with a decent light color theme, not a dark
> > one. It is demonstrated even with surveys that darker themes are
> > harder to read. I pointed to some links a while ago, that i think
> > nobody checked out. It's better for reading, it treats the eye pupil
> > dilatation better and that it's well known by website designers. Every
> > dark theme has applications that show very poor font contrast and even
> > icon contrast. XFCE used to come with light color theme by default,
> > and that should be restored again, maybe choosing theme could be
> > implemented during installation? Default white, and if you want to
> > your machine looks like FBI ones, change theme later. And the reason
> > is that the people that like to tune up themes is more likely to have
> > some skills the people that simply use the machine as is.
> >
> > 4) The Cairo-like toolbar should be avoided, is the intention to look
> > like macOS? XFCE looks already fine with only one toolbar, up or
> > down... cairo? leave that for people that want to tune up the appearence.
> >
> > 5) Music player should be Banshee by default, or some player that show
> > album art, maybe gmusicbrowser with a less complicated layout. maybe
> > emulate banshee layout with gmusicbrowser?
> >
> > 6) definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely need to improve GTK3
> > support. The are NO themes that fully support GTK3? if i install apps,
> > like evolution for email or USC or update manager i cannot use
> > Clearlooks! it completely breaks the appearence for those apps. This
> > is very wrong. maybe we can blame GTK imposition, but there has to be
> > more supported GTK3 themes like Clearlooks and such. Not Adwaita, nor
> > other theme fix this, windows look very different if they are gtk2 or
> > gtk3.
> >
> > 7) what if Xubuntu ships larger that a CD? i installed Xubuntu in a P3
> > 750 and i barely can navigate through webpages, the cpu is not enough
> > for web browsing. Leave that for the Xubuntu minimal version....
> > Xubuntu should hit high and compete with other desktops environments,
> > it can and it is better in so many aspects.
> >
> > 8) Enable tabs in thunar, a decrypt file plugin, add the ability to
> > show "properties" for several selected folders and add the ability to
> > correctly eject usb pendrives because actually can no do that.
> > Otherwise nautilus is needed. Or, change to nautilus default, but this
> > is a bit insane and in this point i would use ubuntu then.
> >
> > Regards!
>
> 2 quick facts...
> -vlc can't be included by default due to licensing
> -the "cario like" dock is just an xfce panel and requires no extra packages
> or overhead.
>
> holstein
>
> >
> >
> > - --
> > - - --
> > Santiago Roland.-
> > - ------------------------------------
> > Observatorio Astron?mico Los Molinos
> > IAU CODE 844 - Montevideo, Uruguay
> > OALM - DICYT - MEC
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> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 03:53:12 +0530
> From: Darshak Parikh <wizard.darshak at gmail.com>
> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>,
>         sroland at lavabit.com
> Subject: A few words on Santiago Roland's suggestions
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> Hi Santiago,
>
> Thank you very much for your suggestions. I have something to say about it.
>
> It would be nice to have them, but VLC and LibO might not be possible to
> add right now for them developers, as has been discussed earlier.
>
> Talking about the music player, I agree with you. Gmusicbrowser is light
> but not as good as Banshee. However, Banshee has been designed for GNOME,
> and might be tough to implement on Xubuntu. And Banshee doesn't fit the
> definition of "lightweight". But of course, it would be nice if we could
> have Audacious instead. What say, people?
>
> And lastly, the theme. Well, the default Xubuntu theme isn't that dark
> really. I mean, the panels are dark, but the window manager and UI theme
> Greybird, is anything but dark. Moreover, dark themes can look good too.
> Look at the Holo theme on Android 4.x, it's the coolest theme ever.
>
> Regards,
> Darshak
> On Dec 2, 2012 2:59 AM, "Santiago Roland" <sroland at lavabit.com> wrote:
>
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> > A couple of things in my opinion that should be considered in future
> > Xubuntu releases
> >
> > 1) VLC as default video player. In my experience, it is the only video
> > player that never refused to reproduce a single video. The only time
> > it failed was because the file was corrupted. I mean, any operating
> > system must ship with a decent video player and Parole does not
> > fulfill that. Parole get sucked for several seconds with any video
> > MP4, AVI, etc and that is very annoying.
> >
> > 2) Libreoffice must be considered if decent compatibility is desired.
> > It is a complete office suite that cannot be compared to
> > abiword+gnumeric. Maybe there should be a minimal Xubuntu iso without
> > this things, but for the everyday life, this things must be out of the
> box
> >
> > 3) Xubuntu should ship with a decent light color theme, not a dark
> > one. It is demonstrated even with surveys that darker themes are
> > harder to read. I pointed to some links a while ago, that i think
> > nobody checked out. It's better for reading, it treats the eye pupil
> > dilatation better and that it's well known by website designers. Every
> > dark theme has applications that show very poor font contrast and even
> > icon contrast. XFCE used to come with light color theme by default,
> > and that should be restored again, maybe choosing theme could be
> > implemented during installation? Default white, and if you want to
> > your machine looks like FBI ones, change theme later. And the reason
> > is that the people that like to tune up themes is more likely to have
> > some skills the people that simply use the machine as is.
> >
> > 4) The Cairo-like toolbar should be avoided, is the intention to look
> > like macOS? XFCE looks already fine with only one toolbar, up or
> > down... cairo? leave that for people that want to tune up the appearence.
> >
> > 5) Music player should be Banshee by default, or some player that show
> > album art, maybe gmusicbrowser with a less complicated layout. maybe
> > emulate banshee layout with gmusicbrowser?
> >
> > 6) definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely need to improve GTK3
> > support. The are NO themes that fully support GTK3? if i install apps,
> > like evolution for email or USC or update manager i cannot use
> > Clearlooks! it completely breaks the appearence for those apps. This
> > is very wrong. maybe we can blame GTK imposition, but there has to be
> > more supported GTK3 themes like Clearlooks and such. Not Adwaita, nor
> > other theme fix this, windows look very different if they are gtk2 or
> > gtk3.
> >
> > 7) what if Xubuntu ships larger that a CD? i installed Xubuntu in a P3
> > 750 and i barely can navigate through webpages, the cpu is not enough
> > for web browsing. Leave that for the Xubuntu minimal version....
> > Xubuntu should hit high and compete with other desktops environments,
> > it can and it is better in so many aspects.
> >
> > 8) Enable tabs in thunar, a decrypt file plugin, add the ability to
> > show "properties" for several selected folders and add the ability to
> > correctly eject usb pendrives because actually can no do that.
> > Otherwise nautilus is needed. Or, change to nautilus default, but this
> > is a bit insane and in this point i would use ubuntu then.
> >
> > Regards!
> >
> >
> > - --
> > - - --
> > Santiago Roland.-
> > - ------------------------------------
> > Observatorio Astron?mico Los Molinos
> > IAU CODE 844 - Montevideo, Uruguay
> > OALM - DICYT - MEC
> > - ------------------------------------
> > openPGP key: 04DF8076
> > http://is.gd/jKuIhW
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