A few words on Santiago Roland's suggestions

Darshak Parikh wizard.darshak at gmail.com
Sat Dec 1 22:23:12 UTC 2012

Hi Santiago,

Thank you very much for your suggestions. I have something to say about it.

It would be nice to have them, but VLC and LibO might not be possible to
add right now for them developers, as has been discussed earlier.

Talking about the music player, I agree with you. Gmusicbrowser is light
but not as good as Banshee. However, Banshee has been designed for GNOME,
and might be tough to implement on Xubuntu. And Banshee doesn't fit the
definition of "lightweight". But of course, it would be nice if we could
have Audacious instead. What say, people?

And lastly, the theme. Well, the default Xubuntu theme isn't that dark
really. I mean, the panels are dark, but the window manager and UI theme
Greybird, is anything but dark. Moreover, dark themes can look good too.
Look at the Holo theme on Android 4.x, it's the coolest theme ever.

On Dec 2, 2012 2:59 AM, "Santiago Roland" <sroland at lavabit.com> wrote:

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> A couple of things in my opinion that should be considered in future
> Xubuntu releases
> 1) VLC as default video player. In my experience, it is the only video
> player that never refused to reproduce a single video. The only time
> it failed was because the file was corrupted. I mean, any operating
> system must ship with a decent video player and Parole does not
> fulfill that. Parole get sucked for several seconds with any video
> MP4, AVI, etc and that is very annoying.
> 2) Libreoffice must be considered if decent compatibility is desired.
> It is a complete office suite that cannot be compared to
> abiword+gnumeric. Maybe there should be a minimal Xubuntu iso without
> this things, but for the everyday life, this things must be out of the box
> 3) Xubuntu should ship with a decent light color theme, not a dark
> one. It is demonstrated even with surveys that darker themes are
> harder to read. I pointed to some links a while ago, that i think
> nobody checked out. It's better for reading, it treats the eye pupil
> dilatation better and that it's well known by website designers. Every
> dark theme has applications that show very poor font contrast and even
> icon contrast. XFCE used to come with light color theme by default,
> and that should be restored again, maybe choosing theme could be
> implemented during installation? Default white, and if you want to
> your machine looks like FBI ones, change theme later. And the reason
> is that the people that like to tune up themes is more likely to have
> some skills the people that simply use the machine as is.
> 4) The Cairo-like toolbar should be avoided, is the intention to look
> like macOS? XFCE looks already fine with only one toolbar, up or
> down... cairo? leave that for people that want to tune up the appearence.
> 5) Music player should be Banshee by default, or some player that show
> album art, maybe gmusicbrowser with a less complicated layout. maybe
> emulate banshee layout with gmusicbrowser?
> 6) definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely need to improve GTK3
> support. The are NO themes that fully support GTK3? if i install apps,
> like evolution for email or USC or update manager i cannot use
> Clearlooks! it completely breaks the appearence for those apps. This
> is very wrong. maybe we can blame GTK imposition, but there has to be
> more supported GTK3 themes like Clearlooks and such. Not Adwaita, nor
> other theme fix this, windows look very different if they are gtk2 or
> gtk3.
> 7) what if Xubuntu ships larger that a CD? i installed Xubuntu in a P3
> 750 and i barely can navigate through webpages, the cpu is not enough
> for web browsing. Leave that for the Xubuntu minimal version....
> Xubuntu should hit high and compete with other desktops environments,
> it can and it is better in so many aspects.
> 8) Enable tabs in thunar, a decrypt file plugin, add the ability to
> show "properties" for several selected folders and add the ability to
> correctly eject usb pendrives because actually can no do that.
> Otherwise nautilus is needed. Or, change to nautilus default, but this
> is a bit insane and in this point i would use ubuntu then.
> Regards!
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