Fwd: Xfce 4.10 Release Cycle Information [delayed]

[Lionel Le Folgoc]

Hi,

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 01:20:16PM +0200, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> On 10/30/2011 04:58 AM, Micah Gersten wrote:
> >On 10/29/2011 08:41 AM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> >>Some information from the Xfce bunkers, too.
> >>
> >>-------- Original Message --------
> >>Subject: 	Xfce 4.10 Release Cycle Information [delayed]
> >>Date: 	Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:33:33 +0200
> >>From: 	Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com>
> >>Reply-To: 	Xfce development list <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>
> >>To: 	Xfce Dev <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>, Xfce Users <xfce at xfce.org>,
> >>Xfce translations mailing list <xfce-i18n at xfce.org>, Xfce
> >>Goodies <goodies-dev at xfce.org>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hey everyone,
> >>
> >>Probably not a surprise for everybody, but the release of Xfce 4.10
> >>will be delayed. The initial target was the first 4.10pre1 release
> >>next week, but that is obviously not going to happen.
> >>
> >>Many of us have been busy, but there are still important milestones we
> >>want to complete before starting the pre-releases.
> >>
> >>For now the schedule is delayed by 2 months. See
> >>http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.10/roadmap  for the full roadmap.
> >>
> >>Greetings,
> >>Nick
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Xfce4-dev mailing list
> >>Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> >>https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
> >>
> >Lionel, I think this means we're sticking with 4.8.x for the LTS,
> >right?  Planned release is 2012-03-11 and Feature Freeze is Feb
> >16.  Maybe we can try to stage 4.10 in a PPA in case they end up
> >releasing in early March and then make the call?  It'll obviously
> >be easier to support a later release.  In addition, the 4.10
> >series was supposed to be focused more on polish and less on
> >features, so it should be a safer upgrade as well.  4.10 released
> >on March 11 would mean 10 days of coverage in archive before beta
> >2 freeze.
> >Thanks,
> >Micah
> >Micah
> >
> >
> From the discussion in #xfce-dev I gathered that they will probably
> be lagging behind more than what is announced now, so I wouldn't
> keep high hopes up just yet.
> 
> Pasi
> 

Yes, I think that the two months delay is a bit optimistic, but who
knows. ;-)

We can put 4.9.x/4.10.x packages in the ~xubuntu-dev ppa, as we did for
lucid and 4.8 (they are still on
<https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa>). It worked fine, and
packages got some testing, and a few bug reports were sent upstream.

Even if the 4.10 series was supposed to be focused more on polish, there
are still a few transitions planned that affect several components, e.g.
merge xfsettingsd and xfce4-settings-helper (done in master and 4.9.0),
replace xfdesktop with a new thunar desktop view (not really started),
and rewrite/cleanup sessions/shutdown functions in xfce4-session and
xfce4-power-manager (only drafted, not started either).

Also, the SRU procedure being as heavy as possible for "simple"
packages, if we ship development snapshots of xfce 4.9.x without the
guarantee that a SRU will be granted, we'll probably manage to upset
upstream developers (as we did in the past with svn snapshots of xfce
4.4 in Edgy Eft) and translators… and users, I guess.

Cheers,

-- 
Lionel
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