default applications for natty

Pasi Lallinaho pasi at shimmerproject.org
Fri Jan 7 19:58:03 UTC 2011


On 01/07/2011 09:51 PM, Allan Button wrote:
> Browser choice is normally based on personal preference. Would it be
> possible to have a first run menu that asks the end user what browser
> they want, and what feature sets they would like?
>
> This may be a step backwards, but I think of centos and anaconda
> asking me what packages I want by default. Something similar but
> simpler could help cut down on the memory footprint. 
>
> For me on my laptop, I don't need printing support, but would prefer
> firefox and thunderbird despite them being a little more memory
> intensive. 
>
> I would also be happy to drop any media application, because my laptop
> is just used for field work for my company. I used to uninstall
> openoffice when it was included too. 
>
> If this menu was presented after the install, then apt could be used
> to fetch the packages. This would free up some space on the cd, and
> help manage the fact that chromium updates every 6 weeks.
Yes and no. I'd like to have those packages on the CD, so that when
you've installed the system you still don't need a CD to be able to
install any media player etc. Not all of us have internet at our hands
all the time, some PC's are really really rarely connected if ever.
>
> Allan Button
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2011-01-07, at 12:34 PM, Micah Gersten <micahg at ubuntu.com
> <mailto:micahg at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>
>> On 01/07/2011 01:11 PM, Jim Campbell wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>>
>> >
>>
>> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Glenn de Groot
>>
>> > <glenn_de_groot at hotmail.com <mailto:glenn_de_groot at hotmail.com>
>> <mailto:glenn_de_groot at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Hello,
>>
>> >
>>
>> > here are some of my thoughts:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Chromium looks really odd and alien on linux, and Midori is
>>
>> > unstable, so I say stick with FF.
>>
>> > Claws-mail is really good and lightweight, it will be a
>> good
>>
>> > thunderbird replacement.
>>
>> > Exaile is not bad but I like (the new) Audacious a lot.
>>
>> > It has a beautiful gtk interface and is the most
>> lightweight
>>
>> > player I have seen.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Also, has lightdm ever been considered?
>>
>> > It seems to be awesome and much lighter then gdm.
>>
>> > Lxdm is good too.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > -Glenn
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > If you haven't seen the latest issue, Linux Journal has a
>> quick look
>>
>> > at some alternate desktop environments, and the first one
>> featured
>>
>> > is Xfce on Xubuntu. The primary* thing that they noted was
>> that the
>>
>> > default Xubuntu install ran with 325mb of RAM used, while
>> Ubuntu's
>>
>> > default RAM usage after boot-up was 328mb (by contrast,
>> Lubuntu used
>>
>> > just 167mb of RAM). They actually suggested using Ubuntu
>> with
>>
>> > lighter-weight apps (i.e., Installing Ubuntu and replacing
>> Rhythmbox
>>
>> > with Exaile, etc.) over using Xubuntu. (Note that they
>> didn't
>>
>> > *dislike* Xubuntu, but just thought it wasn't a big
>> advantage to use
>>
>> > Xfce over Gnome.)
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Xubuntu may load some useful features that Lubuntu doesn't
>> load, but
>>
>> > that RAM usage number is one measuring stick that people
>> use. Would
>>
>> > it be worthwhile to consider any changes that might allow
>> for lesser
>>
>> > memory usage at boot? I'd be willing to help with testing
>> out
>>
>> > various configurations and reporting back to the group if
>> that would
>>
>> > help.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Also, I went back to look at the "Should we use Chromium?"
>> thread
>>
>> > from 2009, and a couple of things have changed since then .
>> . .
>>
>> > Chromium is now stable (it was in beta at the time), there
>> is a
>>
>> > legitimate ad-blocking extension (not just ad-hiding), and
>> it now
>>
>> > allows for community translations (meaning we wouldn't be
>> limited to
>>
>> > Google Chrome's default language set.). These were all
>> larger
>>
>> > concerns at that time.
>> One problem with Chromium is that there are major updates every 6
>> weeks, so the default will be ever changing throughout the cycle.
>> Firefox should only have one major update throughout the cycle.  Also,
>> the Chromium debs are larger than the ones for Firefox.
>> >
>>
>> > I'm indifferent on the mail application. If it means that
>> we could
>>
>> > get rid of Xulrunner (which would require switching to
>> Chromium and
>>
>> > Clawsmail), it might be worth considering switching to
>> Clawsmail,
>>
>> > too. I think yelp uses Xulrunner, though, and yelp gets
>> pulled in
>>
>> > with some of our gnome-apps, like file-roller.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Jim
>>
>> >
>>
>> > *They also incorrectly ascribed the nice-looking theme to
>> work by
>>
>> > Canonical. I'll have to write a letter to the editor about
>> that
>>
>> > one. : )
>> Yelp should be the only thing using xulrunner at the moment in Xubuntu
>> as Firefox and Thunderbird each have their own copy.  If yelp is
>> ported to webkit, then xulrunner can be dropped, but webkit will be
>> pulled in.
What about getting rid of Yelp altogether?
>>
>> Micah
>>
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