xubuntu and indicator applets (Vincent)

Vincent mailinglists at vinnl.nl
Mon May 31 18:00:20 UTC 2010

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Charlie Kravetz <cjk at teamcharliesangels.com
> wrote:

> On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:54:10 +0200
> Simon Steinbeiß <simon.steinbeiss at elfenbeinturm.at> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 25 May 2010 00:19:43, Vincent <mailinglists at vinnl.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > I believe the original freedesktop.org specification originated in
> KDE, so
> > > yes, it works in Kubuntu. Edubuntu is based on GNOME so it works there
> too.
> > > Everything not GNOME or KDE is left out in the cold, I suppose. But
> perhaps
> > > someone wants to implement the specification in a panel plugin for
> Xfce.
> >
> > I heard that the indicators work via the xfapplet-plugin, but i haven't
> tried because i don't want
> > to install all those horrible dependencies just to try it.
> >
> > > Ignoring applications that use the spec will be hard, I think, because
> > > Ubuntu is working to convert all applications in its repo's, which we
> also
> > > use. Nor would I consider this tray icon such a deal-breaker that a
> whole
> > > application is excluded in advance.
> >
> I thought the way this is being done, it becomes a choice to use the
> system tray or the new menu.

No, as I understand it, the old system tray is still being included in
Ubuntu for those apps that haven't been converted yet (so it's a choice for
the app whether to use the old or new tray), but as more and more apps will
be converted, the old tray will be removed. So applications that are already
converted won't show up in the old system tray.

Using xfapplet really isn't an option, not only because of the dependencies
but also because of the performance hit in general. I think the only real
solutions are ignoring the problem altogether (i.e. no applications are
present in the tray) or to write a panel implementation for Xfce. But then
there's the problem of the small amount of developers.

> > I know that that's not a good option, especially in the long/er run. I
> still think there should be
> > some discussion as to what to do with that change.
> > I'm also wondering whether it's a good idea to make xfce (or xubuntu for
> that matter) more and more
> > gnome-ish (or ubuntu-ish), some people might prefer the good old
> tray-icon concept.
> >
> > I wouldn't say that an application should be excluded in advance because
> of that issue, I just
> > think it's necessary for the xubuntu team to decide what to do with this,
> as the problems with it
> > are just about to begin.
> >
> > Simon
> >
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> Charlie Kravetz
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