Xubuntu Website Software (was: Re: UDS Karmic Goals)
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Wed May 27 22:54:26 UTC 2009
2009/5/28 Matthew Nuzum <matthew.nuzum at canonical.com>
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville
> <cody-somerville at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >> I see your point here, but being watched the Xubuntu website in the
> >> what, 9 months, I definitely feel that it's not going to overgrow WP
> >> this amount of activity.
> > You have a valid point here but I think our website can do more. For
> > example, its always been my intention to investigate the possibility of
> > reusing the drupal module that I suspect powers the download section on
> > Ubuntu website. Furthermore, I'm also interested in using the launchpad
> > integration modules created for Drupal.
> > Matthew: Do you know if it would be possible for us to use the download
> > stuff from Ubuntu's website? Open sourcing it would not necessarily be a
> > requirement.
> Launchpad integration is available for both Drupal (versions 5 and 6)
> as well as Wordpress. The internal to Canonical development team is in
> the QA stage (I believe) for wordpress integration with LP. Which ever
> solution you choose can be integrated.
What does the LP integration actually do/which features it provides?
> Regarding the download code, I don't have good news for you. The
> problem isn't the availability of the code but the availability of
> useful data. Launchpad monitors official mirrors to ensure they have
> all of the necessary cd images and files and then provides a list of
> suitable mirrors to ubuntu.com. Xubuntu's CD images aren't among the
> list that are required to be an official mirror.
That was actually what I was asking some time ago at #ubuntu-website.
> A different technical solution will be needed.
If we could get the code that checks the official mirrors, I might add some
checking to ensure if they have Xubuntu images as well. Would this be
> >>> Drupal is not as much a CMS as it is a web development framework with
> >>> a simplistic CMS application built in. If you want to describe and
> >>> publish all kinds of information or build simple dynamic content
> >>> applications Drupal is an excellent option. Another thing it excels at
> >>> is themeing. It has a very simple to use themeing system and doesn't
> >>> in the least sacrifice flexibility. It is unfortunately much more
> >>> challenging to configure and use.
> >> I have to say that my personal opinion somewhat differs here. I've also
> >> developed on Drupal (and WP), and I must say that the theming system of
> >> is way more logical in my hands than Drupals. I see that Drupal
> >> doesn't sacrifice flexibility at all, but the question to be asked is
> >> do we really need that much *complexity*?
> > The toughest part is creating the actual styling and html which is why I
> > have tons of respect for folks like you and Matthew. As for converting
> > into a "theme" for Drupal or WP, that can easily be done with folks who
> > the necessary experience working with the targetted software.
> > I think what Matthew was trying to point out here is Drupal has some very
> > powerful modules that can be pieced together to provide flexible
> > solutions/functionality without needing to touch any code.
> I'm missing out on a good part of this discussion so if you've already
> done this, just ignore me here...
> Change for the sake of change is often not good. If you have
> requirements that are not being met you should clarify them amongst
> yourselves. Then choosing a solution is as simple as "we need X, Y,
> what will provide this?"
> If you are mostly happy with a drupal site but need a blog you will
> probably be most satisfied by enabling the blog module for drupal.
> Otherwise you have to create and maintain a new theme. If you are
> planning on making a new theme anyway and a blog mostly meets your
> needs then you could gain from the simpler/optimized interface and
> workflow in wordpress.
I couldn't say it better myself.
> Before you chose a solution come to an agreement on what the problem
> is. (I'd post this on your wiki) That will make the discussion much
> more productive.
Thansk for your valuable opinions.
> Matthew Nuzum
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