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[Charlie Kravetz]

On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:16:45 -0400
"vidd" <vidd at crosslink.net> wrote:

> Charlie:
> I think you miss the point of what I'm saying!
> The fact that you included the link is irrelevant. 
> Telling people "Go Here" is not acceptable, and, I think,
> rude.
> 
> There are locations in the world that require (by law) that
> a mailing list either include and unsubscribe link (To
> unsubscribe, click HERE) and/or honor an email with
> "unsubscribe" as the subject.
> 
> I'm not asking for the cure for cancer. Just a bit of
> consideration for our fellow man, even if they are leaving
> our group.
> 
> (And PLEASE tell me someone has removed this individual in
> question from the list!)
> 
> vidd
> 
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:50:12 -0600
>  Charlie Kravetz <cjk at teamcharliesangels.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:30:29 -0400
> > "vidd" <vidd at crosslink.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > But there is NOT a "To unsubscribe, click HERE" link
> > > 
> > > If we need an active mailing list maintainer, I'm sure
> > I
> > > could lend a hand
> > > 
> > > vidd
> > 
> > Perhaps you missed the link *I* included then. It was in
> > the answer I
> > sent.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:10:42 +0200
> > >  Vincent <mailinglists at vinnl.nl> wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:36 PM, vidd
> > > > <vidd at crosslink.net> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > or, the list maintainers can remove the individual
> > > > > It is standard practice to unsubscribe a user when
> > the
> > > > user
> > > > > sends an email in the format this user did.
> > > > > If the list maintainers have an issue with this
> > > > standard
> > > > > unsubscribe method, they need to include an
> > > > "unsubscribe"
> > > > > link in every email
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The unsubscribe link Charlie posted is included in
> > every
> > > > email. I'm not sure
> > > > if we even have an active list maintainer for
> > > > xubuntu-devel.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > thank you
> > > > > vidd
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Vincent
> > > 
> > >

I would ask how you verify this individual is really the one sending
the email, since anyone could grab an email address and request it be
unsubcribed? By following the procedure to unscribe, the verification
is sent that you are the one requesting the removal from the mailing
list. If the list maintainer removes my name because someone sent an
email requesting it, I would get angry, myself. 

Or, does the verfication get sent out anyway? I know if one goes
through the web link at the bottom of every Ubuntu Mailing List email,
it does. That is the reason to go through that link. Spamming and
spoofing what they are today, a verfication should be required.

This is the procedure that every person signing on to the list is
given, when the verification to add you to the list is completed. It
is not as if you are not given these instructions in advance.  

From the "Welcome to the "xubuntu-devel" mailing list" email: 

If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to
or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your
subscription page at:

  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/options/xubuntu-devel/cjk%40teamcharliesangels.com


You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:

  xubuntu-devel-request at lists.ubuntu.com

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Charlie Kravetz 
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