inclusion of firefox 3

[vidd]

Vincent wrote:
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> On 3/4/08, *vidd* <vidd at crosslink.net <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net>> wrote:
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>     vidd wrote:
>     > Vincent wrote:
>     >
>     >> On 3/3/08, *vidd* <vidd at crosslink.net
>     <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net> <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net
>     <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     Vincent wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     >
>     >>     >
>     >>     > On 3/3/08, *vidd* <vidd at crosslink.net
>     <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net>
>     >>     <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net>>
>     <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net>
>     >>     <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net <mailto:vidd at crosslink.net>>>>
>     wrote:
>     >>     >
>     >>     >     This application is not ready to be included as the
>     default
>     >>     browser.
>     >>     >     Java does not work with this version. I have attempted to
>     >>     use all 4
>     >>     >     types of java, and none of them worked to bring up a
>     >>     MMOLRPG  that I
>     >>     >     frequent daily.
>     >>     >     The new Firefox looks good, and has some nice
>     features that
>     >>     I'm sure
>     >>     >     some individuals will enjoy. The Flash plugin installs
>     >>     without issue.
>     >>     >     But without the Sun-Java 5 or 6, or even the other,
>     non-Sun java
>     >>     >     programs working properly, our target audience, the linux
>     >>     newcomer
>     >>     >     with
>     >>     >     less capable machines, will be frustrated by having to
>     >>     un-install
>     >>     >     firefox version 3, and install firefox-2, install the
>     java
>     >>     version of
>     >>     >     their choice (minus the  plugin) and manually add the
>     plug-in
>     >>     >
>     >>     >     Or, they will give up
>     >>     >
>     >>     >
>     >>     > Remember that this is just RC1 of Firefox, and IIRC Hardy
>     will
>     >>     include
>     >>     > the stable version once it ships. Also, in-browser Java
>     is far less
>     >>     > prevalent then it used to be, in fact, Runescape is the only
>     >>     > in-browser Java application I can think of. I'm not on Hardy
>     >>     anymore,
>     >>     > otherwise I'd give installing Java a try, because the
>     problem might
>     >>     > also be specific to your machine. Did you file a bug report?
>     >>     >
>     >>     >     Just my 2 cents
>     >>     >
>     >>     >     vidd
>     >>     >
>     >>     >
>     >>     > (Btw, is there a Firefox 2 package for Hardy anywhere?
>     Would be
>     >>     handy
>     >>     > for web development...)
>     >>     >
>     >>     > --
>     >>     > Vincent
>     >>
>     >>     No, I have not filed a bug report
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Could you do so?
>     >>
>     > I have found Bug #196067 Java Plug-In is not available in
>     Firefox-3.0
>     > and Im testing now to see if the work-a-round fixes the issue.
>     > If not, I will file a new bug, and reply again with the bug number
>     >
>     >
>     >>     Not specific to my machine....
>     >>     I have tested on 3 different machines, all different
>     hardware, all
>     >>     same
>     >>     issue
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Sounds pretty machine-independent indeed, so please, file a bug
>     report
>     >> so this can be fixed :)
>     >>
>     >>     Yes, there is a firefox 2 package in Hardy.... sudo apt-get
>     install
>     >>     firefox-2
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Cool, thanks :)
>     >>
>     >>     And what is wrong with runescape????
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I never said something was ;-)
>     >>
>     >>     vidd
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> Vincent
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>     I have confirmed the bug, and added additional information....
>     Simply adding the link did not fix the issue, needed to also run
>     sudo sed -i 's/XINERAMA/FAKEEXTN/g'
>     /user/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.04/jre/lib/i386/xawt/libmawt.so
>     Im no programmer, but it appears that the libmawt.so file and the
>     improper placement of the symbolic link are the cause of the
>     issue, and
>     not Firefox 3 in-and-of-itself
>     (my personal feelings about the application trying too hard to
>     look and
>     feel like a specific proprietary browser application never entered
>     into
>     my evaluation)
>
>
> Hehe, I actually meant changing its status to "Confirmed" ;-)
I dont feel empowered to change bug status ... as i said, im no programmer.
>
> According to that forum thread you linked to, the problem is actually 
> a problem with Java.
I think the issue is a combination of Java, and the way firefox handles 
plugins
> Hava you tried installing Epiphany or Firefox 2 and install Java?
no, Epiphany requires too much gnome for my meager machines, and I didnt 
get around to monkeying with firefox-2 (I had done so much mettling on 
the system, that I formated to a pristeen condition, and found the 
firefox3 cure)

>
>     Thanks
>
>     vidd
>
>
>
> -- 
> Vincent 
vidd