aesthetics

Vincent mailinglists at vinnl.nl
Mon Aug 4 17:09:36 BST 2008


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:57 PM, jmak <jozmak at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Vincent <mailinglists at vinnl.nl> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:01 PM, jmak <jozmak at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree with you. I am also running dreamlinux, in fact that is the
> >> only distro that I didn't feel the need to change its defaults
> >> setting.
> >> This just shows what I said before; how important the look is. And how
> >> important to understand the target audience preferences.
> >> By the way, AWN developers are working on a standalone launcher that
> >> works without compiz. Maybe, we can already start thinking about
> >> replacing xubuntu's bottom panel in the upcoming releases with AWN
> >> launcher.
> >
> > Bad idea, AWN isn't great in terms of usability. It leaves the two bottom
> > corners, which are easiest to reach with the mouse (together with the top
> > corners) unused. Besides, AWN takes up quite a lot of vertical space
> while
> > we will still also need a top panel for the menu and such.
>
> Dreamlinux uses the similar set up but with engage. I find it
> extremely usable.


Well, it's a fact that the corners are the easiest to reach, so it's a waste
not to use it.


> Because engage is sitting behind the applications
> only one panel visible, that even optimizes screenspace.


Having the icons behind the applications is really not that handy, see
http://www.digiplace.nl/images/dream.png
The margin at the bottom is distracting and meanwhile the dock is unusable.


> I like the
> idea that the systemtray and the menu is on the same panel.


That already is the case in Xubuntu IIRC.


> And in the
> next awn release, you will be able position the launchers any side of
> the screen.
> In the last sentence, you meant its size? It is too large that's what you
> meant?
>

Yep, if it doesn't hide behind windows then it takes up a lot of screen real
estate (with a lot wasted at both sides of the dock), which doesn't sound
like a good idea after all the discussion on decreasing the panel size.

>
> >>
> >> Even Mark Suttleworth indicated, it is possible that in the future kde
> >> will be the main ubuntu desktop rather than gnome.
> >
> > No he didn't. He said that an LGPL Qt might be the basis of GNOME instead
> of
> > GTK - with an emphasis on *might*, because clearly that would be a lot of
> > work. Besides, GTK is also still improving.
>
> I was not sure exactly the wording; but now he starts talking about
> the beauty of the macintosh and the fact that ubuntu has to look even
> better, indicates that when kde 4 will be fully functional he might
> make kde as a main ubuntu desktop.
>

Can you cite a source? I'm quite up-to-date yet can't recall reading
anything of the sorts. I do know he wants to out-pretty OS X, but no mention
of using KDE to accomplish that. (Probably the most important step to
accomplish that is a different colour scheme ;-)


>
> jmak
> >
> >>
> >> jmak
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Vincent




-- 
Vincent
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