Side effect of making xubuntu-devel a member of xubuntu-team

[Charlie Kravetz]

On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 12:42 -0500, Jim Campbell wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/27/08, Jelle de Jong <jelledejong at powercraft.nl> wrote: 
>         Vincent wrote:
>         >
>         >
>         > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Eero Tamminen
>         <oak at helsinkinet.fi
>         > <mailto:oak at helsinkinet.fi>> wrote:
>         >
>         >     Hi,
>         >
>         >     On Saturday 26 April 2008, Jelle de Jong wrote:
>         >      > > As someone who has focused primarily on the
>         documentation, I
>         >     find the
>         >      > > deluge of bug reports on the mailing list a little
>         >     overwhelming.  And I
>         >      > > think it also increases the signal-to-noise ratio
>         for
>         >     discussions on
>         >      > > the list - it makes it easier for a discussion to
>         get lost.
>         >      > >
>         >      > > I'd be willing to take myself off of the Xubuntu
>         team list if
>         >     others
>         >      > > want to keep things this way, but  I'd prefer to
>         not receive bug
>         >      > > reports from xubuntu-devel.
>         >      >
>         >
>         >
>         >     Maybe there could be a separate xubuntu-bugs mailing
>         list?
>         >
>         >
>         > I was just going to suggest this myself, so a +1 from me.
>         
>         I don't see any reason why not to do this are there any? It
>         will thinks
>         more cleaner. so +1 for me to.
>         
>         Jelle
>  
> Regarding the bugs mailing list . . .  I'm indifferent (and I don't
> mean that in a bad way).  I'm ok with being able to contribute to
> documentation, but just find it annoying for every Xubuntu bug report
> to come into my mailbox when I want to focus on docs.  What if someone
> wants to contribute to artwork or the website - should they have to
> see a bug report for xfwm4 crashing?  Maybe Jani, Cody, and Lionel
> don't like all of the artwork and other non-core-dev related
> discussions on the devel mailing list, and they prefer things this
> way.
>  
> I can see the need to be notified of bug reports for Xubuntu
> testing/QA, packaging, and seed management . . .  but documentation,
> artwork and community-building/website/marketing folks shouldn't need
> to see every report.  Maybe create a xubuntu-core-dev (or xubuntu-qa)
> mailing list for testers, packagers, and seed managers?  Or maybe
> create a xubuntu-devel-discuss list for less technical development
> discussions?  Maybe people like Cody, Lionel, Jani, Jerome, and others
> like having the bug reports come through, but no other team does
> things this way, and it doesn't seem to be an optimal solution to me.
> I don't think that creating an email filter is a good solution,
> either.
>  
> Cody had preposed the following, "Or we could either remove
> xubuntu-dev from xubuntu-team or remove the contact address (this
> mailing list) from xubuntu-dev," and I haven't heard discussions of
> those options.  I assume that making one of those moves would stop the
> bug reports from feeding to the mailing list, but I'm not sure.
>  
> I don't intend for this to discourage people from working on bugs and
> fixing things, and part of me does see how doing this helps us to see
> how many bug reports are actually coming in, but another part of me
> says that I have limited time to spend on Xubuntu and need to be able
> to focus on the areas that require my work.  
>  
> I'm open to input on this, of course.  We've had things going like
> this for over a month now . . . what do people think?  
>  
> Jim

Agreed, I spend so much time looking at what I can't understand to try
to find what applies, I don't have time for much else anymore. I'm at
the point of just deleting the bugs so I can do what need doing.


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