Side effect of making xubuntu-devel a member of xubuntu-team
cjk at teamcharliesangels.com
Wed Apr 30 21:59:17 UTC 2008
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 12:42 -0500, Jim Campbell wrote:
> On 4/27/08, Jelle de Jong <jelledejong at powercraft.nl> wrote:
> Vincent wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Eero Tamminen
> <oak at helsinkinet.fi
> > <mailto:oak at helsinkinet.fi>> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > On Saturday 26 April 2008, Jelle de Jong wrote:
> > > > As someone who has focused primarily on the
> documentation, I
> > find the
> > > > deluge of bug reports on the mailing list a little
> > overwhelming. And I
> > > > think it also increases the signal-to-noise ratio
> > discussions on
> > > > the list - it makes it easier for a discussion to
> get lost.
> > > >
> > > > I'd be willing to take myself off of the Xubuntu
> team list if
> > others
> > > > want to keep things this way, but I'd prefer to
> not receive bug
> > > > reports from xubuntu-devel.
> > >
> > Maybe there could be a separate xubuntu-bugs mailing
> > I was just going to suggest this myself, so a +1 from me.
> I don't see any reason why not to do this are there any? It
> will thinks
> more cleaner. so +1 for me to.
> Regarding the bugs mailing list . . . I'm indifferent (and I don't
> mean that in a bad way). I'm ok with being able to contribute to
> documentation, but just find it annoying for every Xubuntu bug report
> to come into my mailbox when I want to focus on docs. What if someone
> wants to contribute to artwork or the website - should they have to
> see a bug report for xfwm4 crashing? Maybe Jani, Cody, and Lionel
> don't like all of the artwork and other non-core-dev related
> discussions on the devel mailing list, and they prefer things this
> I can see the need to be notified of bug reports for Xubuntu
> testing/QA, packaging, and seed management . . . but documentation,
> artwork and community-building/website/marketing folks shouldn't need
> to see every report. Maybe create a xubuntu-core-dev (or xubuntu-qa)
> mailing list for testers, packagers, and seed managers? Or maybe
> create a xubuntu-devel-discuss list for less technical development
> discussions? Maybe people like Cody, Lionel, Jani, Jerome, and others
> like having the bug reports come through, but no other team does
> things this way, and it doesn't seem to be an optimal solution to me.
> I don't think that creating an email filter is a good solution,
> Cody had preposed the following, "Or we could either remove
> xubuntu-dev from xubuntu-team or remove the contact address (this
> mailing list) from xubuntu-dev," and I haven't heard discussions of
> those options. I assume that making one of those moves would stop the
> bug reports from feeding to the mailing list, but I'm not sure.
> I don't intend for this to discourage people from working on bugs and
> fixing things, and part of me does see how doing this helps us to see
> how many bug reports are actually coming in, but another part of me
> says that I have limited time to spend on Xubuntu and need to be able
> to focus on the areas that require my work.
> I'm open to input on this, of course. We've had things going like
> this for over a month now . . . what do people think?
Agreed, I spend so much time looking at what I can't understand to try
to find what applies, I don't have time for much else anymore. I'm at
the point of just deleting the bugs so I can do what need doing.
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