vaibhav.khatavkar at oscpro.in
Fri Sep 28 19:13:57 UTC 2007
On 9/29/07, Eero Tamminen <oak at helsinkinet.fi> wrote:
> On Friday 28 September 2007, vaibhav khatavkar wrote:
> > We intended to developed a Live CD which will be targeting
> > towards computer science student developers.
> > CS Ubuntu . ( Computer Science ) .
> > WHY WE INTEND TO DO SO ???
> > 1. In Pune,India we have about 15000 students who are programmers.
> > In India 2-3 Lacks .
> > 2. We have Ubuntu as the solution but it does not provide all
> > development packages that he needs in one single setup.
> > 3. Many of them have fear in mind regarding "Linux" due to
> > partition table management . So they are not going to install Ubuntu
> > after first introduction.
> > 4. Having Live CD equipped with development environment will be
> > pretty useful to them ..
> > 5. Also we want XFCE Desktop because in India most of ppl have
> > 128MB to 256MB of RAM .
> I think 128MB is too little for real use. You can start the Desktop but any
> real work will have the machine swapping a lot because unlike harddisk
> installation, live-CD needs to cache things in RAM (the CD is compressed).
> I'm assuming a normal www-developer would have Firefox, www-editor, chat
> and some programming IDE open all the time, and those take quite a bit
> of RAM too.
Our user should use this CD as first step .
Once they find that there are really useful tools they should install
and use it .
So yes Installation will have problem .
(We may also provide CUI installation , which will be fast )
But "www-developer" use it for very short time .
Once he is convinced , he will install it .
This normally take few days .
> Hm. Installing the Live-CD on harddisk will have two "carrots":
> - More applications (games etc)
> - More performance
> I'm not sure which one would "sell" better... ._)
> > What we intend to give with live cd :
> > * LAMP stack
> > * c/c++ IDE
> Anjuta? Including gtranslator, devhelp, and especially valgrind?
> (Kdevelop would bring in KDE)
> > * ddd
> > * java IDE
> People are not going to be happy (trying) running Eclipse
> on low spec machines, especially from live-CD...
> (Are there smaller Java environments than Eclipse?)
> > * perl, python , ruby on rail
> > * umbrello
> On Gtk based system like Xubuntu, Dia would make more sense
> and consume much less resources.
> > * bluefish,nvu , quanta+
> I think especially on live-CD for low spec machine you would
> try to keep to programs from one desktop environment...
Yes, May be Only KDE or Only GNOME stuff .
> > We don't need office suit and other language stuff .
> I would still suggest having AbiWord for reading Word docs you get from
> elsewhere (and it's otherwise quite nice too) and especially Gnumeric as
> spreadsheet is pretty useful for processing data. Your list seems to be
> concentrating on web-stuff, Gnumeric can import and export HTML and
> sometimes it's nicer for viewing/editing your (exported) database stuff.
> (and of course plain Gtk versions of all those)
So list can be
Approve - Anjuta,AbiWord,devhelp,valgrind,dai ...
We have ask on Poll for
Need to Approve - Gnumeric , gtranslator , bluefish,nvu , quanta+
Looks interesting ...
please keep on adding .
> - Eero
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