xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 19, Issue 32

Roberto Benitez robertomariobenitez at gmail.com
Fri Mar 23 02:31:46 UTC 2007 

Hi everybody !!
Finally I am back.
After fixing my internet conexion problem I've got the screen of my spare
laptop broken. Fortunately, I've got it fixed yesterday just in time to
download feisty-desktop-i386 (version 22-mar-2007) to initiate my first
test. It didn't work. After checking system reqs, I realized that I have
only 96mb of ram so I downloaded the alternate version. It worked! The only
thing is that installation process (oem user) took about 12 hours !!!! (I
think that my poor laptop will not be able to make the next release of
xubuntu). Probably I will be using my extra partition on my official laptop
(I know we need best to test on exclusive hardware but is what I have by
now).
I will  update launchpad with my results.
I am very proud of my first experience.
Best regards.

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>    1. Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages (Jim Campbell)
>    2. Big Kudos (Cody Somerville)
>    3. My upgrade process (Vincent)
>    4. Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages (Jani Monoses)
>    5. Re: Big Kudos (Jani Monoses)
>    6. Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages (Jim Campbell)
>    7. Xubuntu tests still needed (Jim Campbell)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:35:07 -0500
> From: "Jim Campbell" <jwcampbell at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages
> To: "Xubuntu Development Discussion" <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Jani,
>
> The xfce4-panel didn't start in my live session of the most recent
> (2007/03/22) i386 live cd.  Unfortunately, my i386 box isn't networked
> right
> now, so I can't do much to get you the backtrace.
>
> Is there a bug (or set of bugs) that you're following for this, or the
> other
> recent xfce-related crashes?
>
> As a note, xfce4-panel worked properly on the actual installed system
> after
> I completed the install - just didn't appear in the live session.  Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> On 3/19/07, Jani Monoses <jani.monoses at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > in the past weeks the number of automatic reports of crashes in
> xfdesktop4
> > , xfce4-session and
> > xfce4-panel have increased considerably. To have a better chance at
> > debugging them we need more
> > useful backtraces than the ones currently generated by apport from the
> > stripped binaries.
> >
> > So if any of you are among the reporters of those crashes you could
> > install the corresponding
> > -dbgsym packages.
> >
> > Add the line
> > deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs feisty main universe
> >
> > to your apt sources and update, then you can install xfdesktop4-dbgsym
> and
> > other similarly named packages.
> > When a crash occurs the backtrace will hopefully include a lot more
> > information.
> >
> > See this for more info
> >
> >
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-September/000195.html
> >
> >
> > Jani
> >
> >
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>
>
>
> --
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:04:36 -0300
> From: "Cody Somerville" <cody.somerville at gmail.com>
> Subject: Big Kudos
> To: "Xubuntu Development Discussion" <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>,
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> Hi Everyone,
>
> As you know, I'm still in the hospital. The good news is that I'll be out
> in
> 3-4 weeks but the bad news is that I might not have Internet for awhile as
> I'll be moving once I get out of the hospital. I'll be sure to keep in
> touch
> regardless.
>
> Anyhow, I don't have a lot of time but I would like to give a big thanks
> to
> the xubuntu-devel team, jmaz, adam, vincent, thesheep (can't spell your
> real
> name), Jim (HUGE thanks for doing the testing stuff - keep up the awesome
> work), and everyone else who helps make Xubuntu rock! Sorry I can't name
> everyone by name but I want everyone to know that I _really_ apprecaite
> your
> contributions and I'd love to hear about them (so feel free to e-mail me).
>
> Thanks a bunch everyone! I look forward to rocking with you all for
> feisty+1
>
> With love, :)
>
> Cody
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:45:06 +0100
> From: Vincent <imnotb at gmail.com>
> Subject: My upgrade process
> To: "Xubuntu Development Discussion" <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Hey, I hope you don't feel like I'm spamming now or something, but I
> thought
> it might be interesting for users considering the upgrade to Xubuntu
> Feisty
> to test it to see the upgrade process. That's why I've made lots of
> screenshots which I've blogged about here:
> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/risking-the-update/
>
> Sorry if it's too much self-promotion, I won't do it again ;)
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:32:14 +0200
> From: Jani Monoses <jani.monoses at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages
> To: xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Jim Campbell wrote:
> > Jani,
> >
> > The xfce4-panel didn't start in my live session of the most recent
> > (2007/03/22) i386 live cd.  Unfortunately, my i386 box isn't networked
> > right now, so I can't do much to get you the backtrace.
>
> This used to happen in edgy as well with only 128M of RAM, is that your
> case by any chance?
>
>
> > Is there a bug (or set of bugs) that you're following for this, or the
> > other recent xfce-related crashes?
> I am not sure, there was a surge in crasher bug reports in the past week,
> which I hope is
> helped by the latest upload of libxfce4util two days ago. People reporting
> crashes today
> can still be a few days behind latest so it will take a while to know
> whether that package really fixes
> many of the fce4-session and xfdekstop4 crashers
>
> > As a note, xfce4-panel worked properly on the actual installed system
> > after I completed the install - just didn't appear in the live session.
>
> It would make sense if it's because of limited memory, even though it's a
> shame to have regressed from dapper
> in that regard :( . The trash plugin and system-tools-backends are two
> apps which I think are there and were not
> before. I'll wait to see if you indeed have 128M before going too deep
> into this.
>
> Jani
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:34:35 +0200
> From: Jani Monoses <jani.monoses at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Big Kudos
> To: xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc: xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Cody Somerville wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > As you know, I'm still in the hospital. The good news is that I'll be
> > out in 3-4 weeks but the bad news is that I might not have Internet for
> > awhile as I'll be moving once I get out of the hospital. I'll be sure to
> > keep in touch regardless.
>
> Hi,
>
> hopefully when you get out we'll be close to a really good xubuntu release
> waiting to be used ;)
>
> best wishes
> Jani
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:45:37 -0500
> From: "Jim Campbell" <jwcampbell at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages
> To: "Xubuntu Development Discussion" <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Jani,
>
> I have a rather odd setup with 448mb of RAM.  It is only on a PII-400
> machine, though.  Perhaps that could be part of the issue if you are
> concerned about computing power.
>
> I am drafting a message to the listserve to recruit a few more
> testers.  As
> of now, I am the only one to report test results on the beta images that
> were released yesterday.  Hopefully we can see if others are having
> similar
> problems.
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> Jim
>
> On 3/22/07, Jani Monoses <jani.monoses at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Jim Campbell wrote:
> > > Jani,
> > >
> > > The xfce4-panel didn't start in my live session of the most recent
> > > (2007/03/22) i386 live cd.  Unfortunately, my i386 box isn't networked
> > > right now, so I can't do much to get you the backtrace.
> >
> > This used to happen in edgy as well with only 128M of RAM, is that your
> > case by any chance?
> >
> >
> > > Is there a bug (or set of bugs) that you're following for this, or the
> > > other recent xfce-related crashes?
> > I am not sure, there was a surge in crasher bug reports in the past
> week,
> > which I hope is
> > helped by the latest upload of libxfce4util two days ago. People
> reporting
> > crashes today
> > can still be a few days behind latest so it will take a while to know
> > whether that package really fixes
> > many of the fce4-session and xfdekstop4 crashers
> >
> > > As a note, xfce4-panel worked properly on the actual installed system
> > > after I completed the install - just didn't appear in the live
> session.
> >
> > It would make sense if it's because of limited memory, even though it's
> a
> > shame to have regressed from dapper
> > in that regard :( . The trash plugin and system-tools-backends are two
> > apps which I think are there and were not
> > before. I'll wait to see if you indeed have 128M before going too deep
> > into this.
> >
> > Jani
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:58:42 -0500
> From: "Jim Campbell" <jwcampbell at gmail.com>
> Subject: Xubuntu tests still needed
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> Hello,
>
> Thanks to all of your help in testing the releases prior to the release of
> the first beta.  At this time, we're still in need of some test reports
> for
> Xubuntu.
>
> Because we seem to be a bit thin on test reports at the moment, and the
> beta
> is set to be released tomorrow, it is most important that we at least test
> for the i386 architecture.  Here are the links for reporting your results
>
> * i386 desktop <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93132>
> * i386 alternate <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93133>
>
> If we have adequate coverage on those two items (or if you do not have an
> i386 computer) please test on an AMD64-based computer:
>
> *AMD64 desktop <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93134>
> *AMD64 alternate <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93135>
>
> As a note, each "bug" has general instructions on what to do to test and
> to
> report your tests, so please see the "bug" description for helpful links
> and
> information.  :-)
>
> For those of you who have provided test reports recently, we did have some
> relatively last-minute changes to the ISOs which required us to "reset"
> the
> test results in the past few days.  Although it can feel disappointing,
> it's
> all part of the testing process . . .  it's because of tests like ours
> that
> we're able to find bugs, and fixing those bugs ultimately leads to better
> releases.  :-) Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions,
>
> Jim
>
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