jozmak at gmail.com
Thu Jan 11 16:44:34 UTC 2007
We would use the text "Xubuntu"; isn't this word the same in every languages?
On 1/11/07, Robert B. Lance Sr. <vidd at hotmail.com> wrote:
> As far as "do-able"...How would said button effect different languages...
> From what I understand, if I change my system language from EN to DE, to SP,
> to whatever, we would need a different button image (or the image would
> require there be NO TEXT in it at all) so that different languages would
> understand what the button is
> And if there is no text in the button, how is the newcomer supposed to guess
> what it is?
> Robert B. Lance Sr.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jmak" <jozmak at gmail.com>
> To: "Xubuntu Development Discussion" <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Menu button
> > On 1/9/07, Jani Monoses <jani.monoses at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > jmak wrote:
> > > > The idea is to develop a distinct personality for xubuntu. I am just
> > > > coming up with ideas that I think would improve xubuntu's usability
> > > > and look and feel. By the way, everybody is invited to join in.
> > >
> > > and good work so far, it's just that your ideas are a bit further ahead
> > > sometimes than what we can do technically now, being limited by
> > > available resources and time.
> > >
> > > > Anyway, if we don't customize the desktop just take whatever others
> > > > think the default should be then we justify the critics according to
> > > > which xubuntu is just a poor gnome clone in an xfce clothing. Look at
> > > > Dreamlinux, it is everywhere nowadays, but I don't think just because
> > >
> > > I think it is the first time I hear about Dreamlinux so it is definitely
> > > not everywhere ;)
> > >
> > > As for critics saying it's a gnome clone: why is that bad? While I agree
> > > that looks are very important, they are not what most distinguishes
> > > ubuntu/xubuntu from other distros. The 'gnome ripoff' argument is mostly
> > > heard from users who hop from one distro to another or just judge them
> > > by their screenshots, then inflict their opinions on others via comments
> > > on osnews and other glamour news-sites :)
> > We live in a visual culture (unfortunately), so everything is up to
> > the eye (rather than the mind). Because of this, visual matters should
> > be among the top considerations on the priority list, in my view. Mark
> > said it this way: "look and feel is a feature"
> > >
> > > IMHO Gnome is a very decent-looking and usable desktop especially for
> > > new users. Xfce is not there yet, so any comparison wrt looks and
> > > usability I find favorable. GNOME falls short wrt resource usage and
> > > often wrt stability, and this is where Xfce is somewhat better.
> > I too like gnome. What I was saying simply is that despite all this we
> > should start developing a distinct character for xubuntu within the
> > parameters of the gnomish look. Otherwise, we will be
> > indistinguishable. Not a good sign if we want to stick out from the
> > crowd.
> > >
> > > So I am all for good looks if they are technically doable (and not
> > > require modifications to xfdesktop or other components just for this) in
> > > a short time, but as long as our resources are limited we'll probably
> > > spend them on fixing bugs :( In particular the button instead of text is
> > > not readily doable AFAIK in the current menu, and it also poses l10n
> > > issues as raised in this thread already
> > >
> > What is doable and what is not I cannot judge, because I am not a
> > developer but a graphic designer. So if the button is not doable that
> > is fine.
> > Jmak
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