Menu button

Robert B. Lance Sr. vidd at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 11 17:38:07 GMT 2007


Im not sure...what about languages like Chinese that don't use "standard"
lettering common with most languages?

Robert B. Lance Sr.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jmak" <jozmak at gmail.com>
To: "Xubuntu Development Discussion" <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Menu button


> We would use the text "Xubuntu"; isn't this word the same in every
languages?
>
> On 1/11/07, Robert B. Lance Sr. <vidd at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > As far as "do-able"...How would said button effect different
languages...
> > From what I understand, if I change my system language from EN to DE, to
SP,
> > to whatever, we would need a different button image (or the image would
> > require there be NO TEXT in it at all) so that different languages would
> > understand what the button is
> > And if there is no text in the button, how is the newcomer supposed to
guess
> > what it is?
> >
> > Robert B. Lance Sr.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jmak" <jozmak at gmail.com>
> > To: "Xubuntu Development Discussion" <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: Menu button
> >
> >
> > > On 1/9/07, Jani Monoses <jani.monoses at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > jmak wrote:
> > > > > The idea is to develop a distinct personality for xubuntu. I am
just
> > > > > coming up with ideas that I think would improve xubuntu's
usability
> > > > > and look and feel. By the way, everybody is invited to join in.
> > > >
> > > > and good work so far, it's just that your ideas are a bit further
ahead
> > > > sometimes than what we can do technically now, being limited by
> > > > available resources and time.
> > > >
> > > > > Anyway, if we don't customize the desktop just take whatever
others
> > > > > think the default should be then we justify the critics according
to
> > > > > which xubuntu is just a poor gnome clone in an xfce clothing. Look
at
> > > > > Dreamlinux, it is everywhere nowadays, but I don't think just
because
> > > >
> > > > I think it is the first time I hear about Dreamlinux so it is
definitely
> > > > not everywhere ;)
> > > >
> > > > As for critics saying it's a gnome clone: why is that bad? While I
agree
> > > > that looks are very important, they are not what most distinguishes
> > > > ubuntu/xubuntu from other distros. The 'gnome ripoff' argument is
mostly
> > > > heard from users who hop from one distro to another or just judge
them
> > > > by their screenshots, then inflict their opinions on others via
comments
> > > > on osnews and other glamour news-sites :)
> > >
> > >
> > > We live in a visual culture (unfortunately), so everything is up to
> > > the eye (rather than the mind). Because of this, visual matters should
> > > be among the top considerations on the priority list, in my view. Mark
> > > said it this way: "look and feel is a feature"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > IMHO Gnome is a very decent-looking and usable desktop especially
for
> > > > new users. Xfce is not there yet, so any comparison wrt looks and
> > > > usability I find favorable. GNOME falls short wrt resource usage and
> > > > often wrt stability, and this is where Xfce is somewhat better.
> > >
> > > I too like gnome. What I was saying simply is that despite all this we
> > > should start developing a distinct character for xubuntu within the
> > > parameters of the gnomish look. Otherwise, we will be
> > > indistinguishable. Not a good sign if we want to stick out from the
> > > crowd.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > So I am all for good looks if they are technically doable (and not
> > > > require modifications to xfdesktop or other components just for
this) in
> > > > a short time, but as long as our resources are limited we'll
probably
> > > > spend them on fixing bugs :( In particular the button instead of
text is
> > > > not readily doable AFAIK in the current menu, and it also poses l10n
> > > > issues as raised in this thread already
> > > >
> > >
> > > What is doable and what is not I cannot judge, because I am not a
> > > developer but a graphic designer. So if the button is not doable that
> > > is fine.
> > >
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