more than 128 M needed for liveCD

Adam Miller maxamillion at
Tue Nov 7 09:23:24 UTC 2006

Xubuntu has/was never my choice because of old hardware. I run Xubuntu on an
iBookG4 1GHz w/ 768mb of ram, an Athlon64 3200+ w/ 1gb of ram, and an
Athlon64 X2 4600+ w/ 2gb of ram. Xubuntu is wonderful for the fact that it
is more efficient, less bloated, smoother than the alternatives, has a
logical window placement algorithm, and mostly just has a more pleasant over
all user+DE interaction. We owe many thanks to Xfce for a substantial amount
of this but also we must not forget our Xubuntu devs, they give so much in
their spare time and it looks as though that the newest ubuntu-base or
something related has caused the system requirements to be bumped up a
little. Now while I will be the first to agree that it would be nice to pin
point why the requirements have gone up and see if it can be fixed, I don't
see why in the mean time we should be trying to alter what Xubuntu is all
about...... sorry if this is a little preachy, I just kinda started thinking
thought my keyboard and didn't stop .... also, my opinion to the "old
hardware" issue requires me to have a little more information ... thus we go
to Jani. :)

     If the user runs 128mb and uses the alternate install image, is the
desktop still usable?


On 11/7/06, Harold Aling <h.aling at> wrote:
>  Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Hi Jani
> On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 19:09 +0200, Jani Monoses wrote:
>  Unfortunatley we have a bad regression since dapper. The liveCD will
> not function properly
> with 128M of RAM and no swap. This I only noticed in qemu and wrongly
> assumed (hoped) it's
> specific to it, but we get bugreports confirming it on real machines.
> This sadly makes xubuntu lose one of its selling points :( I have no
> idea what causes the extra memory
> use, it may be system-tools-backend which use perl, but I don't know
> for sure.
>  I'm working on a local derivative of Edubuntu/Xubuntu for schools, and
> I've let local people know that we will be using the live cd
> infrastructure. Some of the more technical people was already unhappy
> about this because the livecd doesn't have a rescue mode, and the bigger
> problem they have is that you can't install it on low memory (like
> 128MB) machines.
> What I've done to get arround this, is make the default session a little
> python+glade interface I created, where they can start the installer
> without logging into the Xubuntu session, this allows you to even
> install it on a computer with a bit less than 128MB RAM, here's a
> screenshot of the chooser I made:
>  Perfect!
> When I install (x)ubuntu on a machine, I don't want/need a complete
> desktop environment, the installer alone is more than enough.
> If I do want a DE, it would be very nice if it would be selectable (on
> boot)...
> -H-
> (artwork not final
> yet, it will look way better when it's done).
> I showed this to cjwatson, and he suggested that it gets integrated in
> GDM instead. That gave me an idea for a fix for this problem for Xubuntu
> too, you could add another session to GDM that will just run ubiquity,
> and make it possible to install on a low-end machine. Otherwise, I'd be
> glad to share my tool when it's more polished, but at the moment the
> code isn't very elegant at all. :)
> -Jonathan
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