Upstart 1.0 development branch

Kevin Hunter hunteke at earlham.edu
Thu Apr 30 20:31:21 BST 2009


At 3:04pm -0400 on Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Casey Dahlin wrote:
> Kevin Hunter wrote:
>> At 4:29am -0400 on Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Scott Remnant wrote:
>>> I'm developing the next version of Upstart largely in private at the
>>> moment, so you won't find it on Launchpad.
>>
>> This ran across my desk this afternoon.  I was reminded of this email
>> from a couple of weeks ago.  (Thank goodness for web archives of email
>> discussions!)
>>
>> http://producingoss.com/en/setting-tone.html#avoid-private-discussions
>>
>> Food for thought ...

> +1 One more for posterity.
> 
> http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1595

Oh gosh.  No offense intended, but I much prefer the producingoss text
over the two blogs in question.  The former is a cohesive and
well-reasoned rhetoric for entire-process openness, while the latter two
are more passive-aggressive and whiny.

Like it or not, this *is* open source software, meaning that however the
primary developers want to do it is how it will be done.  Whining
doesn't help, and, in fact, usually hinders the process.  Open source is
as much about the community as it is the final product.

I am entirely with you on the notion that the project would be better
off if it were developed completely openly.  But being confrontationally
argumentative doesn't help persuade.  In my experience, a
confrontational attitude usually has the intended effect: the folks
being attacked will respond in kind.

I offer the producingoss text as genuine food for thought.  My hope is
that the development team (Scott) takes it to heart, but whether he does
is, in the end, up to him.

Vinegar and honey ...

Either way, I thank all involved for the hard work they're giving to the
community.

Kevin



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