Upstart 0.5 Are We There Yet?

[Scott James Remnant]

On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 23:24 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> 2008/1/17, Scott James Remnant <scott at netsplit.com>:
> > On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 12:37 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > 2008/1/16, Scott James Remnant <scott at netsplit.com>:
> > > > On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 12:45 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > > > 2008/1/16, Scott James Remnant <scott at netsplit.com>:
> > > > > > Disable a job from its definition, instead of just deleting it.
> > > > > >
> > > This approach has some problems though:
> > > 1.) It changes the md5sum of the file. This results in dpkg prompts on
> > > package upgrades.
> > >
> > > > > >         I have again become unconvinced of the usefulness of this,
> > > > > >         instead favouring something more like "profiles" or "flags"
> > > > > >         where jobs can be disabled and enabled en-masse.
> >
> > > > > >> The disabling would have to be external to the job files.
> >
> Correct, and it's the only sensible way imho.
> 
Ah, we appear to have reached the beginning of this conversation ;)

> Now, for the implementation, I can think of different solutions:
> 1.) Use symlinks and profiles/runlevel directories. Proven, rather
> easy to handle. Scott doesn't like them though ;-)
> 
You end up with a maintenance burden for an all-in "profile", and if you
have a lot of profiles, you have a lot of directories and a lot of
symlinks.

> 2.) Use the x bit to mark if a job is disabled or not. Imho a bit
> hackish. Doesn't allow more complex schemes like different
> profiles/runlevels.
> 
Abuse of the bit.

> 3.) extended attributes. Store the information if a job is
> disabled/enabled (for a given profile/runlevel) using user_xattr.
> Requires fs support.
> 
Eurgh.

> 4.) Define runlevels/profiles using files. Wasn't Alex hacking on this?
> 
Yeah, dunno how far he got though?

Scott
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