State of Upstart

[Alfred Zastrow]

Scott James Remnant schrieb:

> What's the alternative?
> 
> We could accept that HAL and D-BUS are part of the infrastructure, and
> depend on them.
> 
> Instead of events and states we can use:
> 
>   * D-BUS signals
>   
>   * D-BUS methods (shutdown, etc.)
>   
>   * D-BUS Names existing
> 
>   * HAL Device objects existing

One question: How do you want to solve the chicken-egg-problem in this
case? D-Bus and HAL are started very late (at least in my configuration).
Most "traditional" services are started before.

> The concern is that by limiting it to traditional services, we're
> limiting its lifetime because there won't be many of those left before
> long.

This would be sad. :-(
In my opinion Suse and RH have a very ugly script patchwork for its
system startup and they use it to make their systems unigue. I expect,
they never will switch over. I like the clean and simple design of upstart.

regards
Alfred