IRC meeting

[Rob Ubuntu Linux]

On 11/26/07, Scott James Remnant <scott at netsplit.com> wrote:

> Runlevel support ... Runlevels are ancient history, forget about them.
> That being said, Upstart's sysv compat tools emulate them so you can't
> tell the difference.

They're useful to admins though, during system maintenance.  Some
shorthand to move to "service level" with non-graphical login,
non-network services is useful.  Rebooting and remounting file systems
can take a long time, and when you're doing remote admin, single user
mode is too blunt a sword.

Yes, Debian says you if you have software installed it's because you
want to run it, but actually sometimes you don't and turning a load of
daemons off one by one by hand is error prone.

So if Upstart is genuinely trying to be better than SyS V init, I
think way of naming a level of service and their dependencies is
worthwhile.  Debian & Ubuntu may not have defined run levels, but not
replacing them with something better is giving reasons to sys admins
to keep sys V init.