[Bug 423856] Re: [FFE] ec2-init should check for image upgrades

[Soren Hansen]

> About working on Eucalytpus, yes, we want this mechanism to work in
> Eucalyptus too, because we want people to know that there are new images of
> Ubuntu available with new fixes and features and they might want to upgrade
> (or perhaps they *really should* upgrade, in case of kernel issues). If you
> have a proposal on how to offer this feature on both EC2 and Eucalyptus,
> including simple image customizations, I'd like to know about it.

It would seem to me that any decision we can make server side could be made
client side. It's little different from what apt-get does. It fetches a list of
what's available, compares it to what it's got installed and decides what it
wants to do. Compare this to sending the complete list of installed packages to
a server somewhere which then decides which upgraded packages it wants to give
you.

>> I am saying that it appears to violate what I understood to be a promise
>> from Ubuntu and that the implications should be considered carefully and
>> the policy should be discussed publicly before the feature is implemented.
> Again, as far as I'm aware of, the context you've been working on was in EC2,
> and as such I can't see what's the promise Ubuntu would offer you when Amazon
> is monitoring everything you are doing.

Just because I trust my data to Amazon does not mean that I'm comfortable
sharing my data with the rest of the world.  That's the "trust" part.

I don't see how this is relevant at all, though. Regardless of what Amazon may
or may not be doing with your data, we should hold ourselves and Ubuntu to the
highest possible standard and as far as possible respect our users' privacy.

>> Again, I'm not fighting against this, but I think those who might oppose it
>> should be given a chance to voice their concerns before it launches,
>> rather than creating a ruckus afterwards
> I believe you are already exercising this chance. What else would you suggest?

I'm sure I don't understand what you're suggesting here. Are you suggesting
that this is uncontroversial enough that this bug (which /extremely/ few of the
target users will ever see) is enough exposure, and also that now that Eric has
seen it, there couldn't possibly be more to be said?

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[FFE] ec2-init should check for image upgrades
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