[Bug 423856] Re: [FFE] ec2-init should check for image upgrades

[Gustavo Niemeyer]

> Gustavo: Note that the current enhancement proposal goes beyond just
> EC2, but appears to also apply to Ubuntu images users run with
> Eucalyptus on their own hardware at their own company.

Eric, your point about the "Ubuntu philosophy" was specific to EC2.

About working on Eucalytpus, yes, we want this mechanism to work in
Eucalyptus too, because we want people to know that there are new images
of Ubuntu available with new fixes and features and they might want to
upgrade (or perhaps they *really should* upgrade, in case of kernel
issues). If you have a proposal on how to offer this feature on both EC2
and Eucalyptus, including simple image customizations, I'd like to know
about it.

> I am saying that it appears to violate what I understood to be a promise
> from Ubuntu and that the implications should be considered carefully and
> the policy should be discussed publicly before the feature is implemented.

Again, as far as I'm aware of, the context you've been working on was in
EC2, and as such I can't see what's the promise Ubuntu would offer you
when Amazon is monitoring everything you are doing.

If your concern now is about Eucalyptus, there are many trivial ways to
prevent this mechanism from working: simply disable it by removing the
configuration file, block the connections to the public API, etc.

> Again, I'm not fighting against this, but I think those who might oppose it
> should be given a chance to voice their concerns before it launches,
> rather than creating a ruckus afterwards

I believe you are already exercising this chance.  What else would you
suggest?

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[FFE] ec2-init should check for image upgrades
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