<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD></HEAD> <BODY style="font-family:'Bitstream Vera Serif'; font-size:16px"><DIV><DIV><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]">From my experience it's easy enough to differentiate between programs by their nature usually a good number are commercial and while getting used to open source you'll have to put and with different types of software, noting the license type and reading a little about it will suffice in most cases since different types usually don't always fit on one disc, server or repository. </FONT></SMALL></DIV><DIV><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]">Skype, Adobe plugins usually fall into such categories it's worth filing bugs or sending emails to the repository maintainers to push items on to servers, if it's freely available it's a start - the rest needs users to make it happen requests and such.<BR></FONT></SMALL></DIV><DIV><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]"><BR></FONT></SMALL></DIV><DIV><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]">--</FONT></SMALL></DIV><DIV><SUB><FONT color="#670000"><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]">Spencer </FONT></SMALL><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]"><BR></FONT></SMALL></FONT></SUB></DIV><DIV><P><SUB><FONT color="#670000"><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]">GoogleTalk/Jabber: schirume@gmail.com</FONT></SMALL><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]"><BR></FONT></SMALL></FONT></SUB></P><P><SUB><FONT color="#670000"><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]"> </FONT></SMALL></FONT></SUB><SUB><FONT color="#670000"><SMALL><FONT face="Linux Biolinum [unknown]">Using Opera's e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/</FONT></SMALL></FONT></SUB></P></DIV></DIV><DIV>On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:06:31 +0100, Kalpesh Thaker <luminary06@gmail.com> wrote:<BR><BR><BLOCKQUOTE style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex"><H2 id="Why is Skype not part of Ubuntu?"><SPAN style="font-weight: normal;">hi guys...i thought this was quite an interesting read.. on a very common question for ubuntu users:</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN style="font-weight: normal;"><A href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeEthics">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeEthics</A></SPAN><BR> </H2><BR><BR><H2 id="Why is Skype not part of Ubuntu?">Why is Skype not part of Ubuntu?</H2> <P class="line874">Skype is not part of the Ubuntu distribution because it does not conform to the requirements of the Ubuntu Charter. This is primarily because source code is not available. A consequence of this is that it is impossible to understand the Skype communication protocol, which prevents competition and fractures the VoIP market, making it harder for people to communicate. As an example, Skype users can only talk with other Skype users because the Skype protocol is closed. But people using SIP clients like Ekiga can talk with anyone else using a SIP client (such as Wengophone or Twinkle) since SIP is a free protocol. </P><P class="line874">Earlier versions of Skype (1.2 and older) might have issues with basic sound cards that do not support hardware mixing due to using the Open Sound System (OSS). </P><P class="line867"> </P><H2 id="VoIP soft-phones included in Ubuntu">VoIP soft-phones included in Ubuntu</H2> <P class="line874">There are several alternative software based VoIP phones, that are 'free libre open', use 'open' protocols, and are included in the Ubuntu repositories. Among others, there are: </P><UL><LI><P class="line891"><A class="http" href="http://live.gnome.org/Empathy">Empathy</A> with full Video & Voice chat support, Google Talk compatible </P></LI><LI><P class="line891"><A class="https" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin">Pidgin</A> </P></LI><LI><P class="line891"><A class="https" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga">Ekiga</A> </P></LI><LI><P class="line891"> <A class="https" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Twinkle">Twinkle</A> </P></LI><LI><P class="line891"><A class="http" href="http://www.wengophone.com/">Wengophone</A> now known as Qutecom. </P></LI><LI>KPhone </LI><LI>Gimzo5 </LI></UL><P class="line867"> </P><H2 id="Ethics of Skype">Ethics of Skype</H2> <P class="line867"> </P><H3 id="Free Software">Free Software</H3> <P class="line874">Ubuntu supports free software, which anyone can use, modify and improve, and open protocols, so that different software can interoperate. Skype's software and the Skype protocol are both entirely secret. Users may choose to avoid Skype because: </P><UL><LI>They will be forced to use Skype software as no alternatives will be available </LI><LI>Once they develop a Skype network of contacts, it will be harder to move to a free network </LI><LI>Skype could begin charging for their service at any time they choose </LI><LI><P class="line862">Skype has deliberately limited capabilities of Skype for non-Intel users (details <A class="http" href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=947">here</A>) </P></LI><LI>Skype is provided and runs natively only on the x86 and x86_64 (32 and 64 bit), ARM (iPhone) and Power PC (Mac with G4 or G5 processor) architectures, excluding people using other architectures </LI></UL><P class="line867"> </P><H3 id="Free speech">Free speech</H3> Users may choose to avoid Skype because they have been engaged in censorship in China. Chinese users and users in certain countries may fear that along with censorship, they will suffer disclosure of their private conversations to other people, authorities or governments. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR><DIV id="M2Signature"><DIV><SMALL>-- </SMALL></DIV><DIV><P><FONT face="Lohit Telugu [unknown]"><SUB><FONT color="#670000"><SMALL>Spencer </SMALL><SMALL><BR></SMALL></FONT></SUB></FONT></P><P><FONT face="Lohit Telugu [unknown]"><SUB><FONT color="#670000"><SMALL>GoogleTalk/Jabber: schirume@gmail.com</SMALL><SMALL><BR></SMALL></FONT></SUB></FONT></P><P><FONT face="Lohit Telugu [unknown]"><SUB><FONT color="#670000"><SMALL> </SMALL></FONT></SUB></FONT><FONT face="Lohit Telugu [unknown]"><SUB><FONT color="#670000"><SMALL>Using Opera's e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/</SMALL></FONT></SUB></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>