<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Leon, now I'm totally confused. I was under the impression that Mint comes in two environments: Mate and Cinnanon. Now you appear to indicate that Mate is Ubuntu. Also, in the Linux Mint release timeline on Wiki (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint</a>) Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is listed as one of the Mint releases. ?? <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/05/2015 13:24, Leon Gert Marincowitz wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAGh00TAkLW7FGtgLQ_siShuV4bBc2P8ReMQjoxVB-2RtPQ-nQA@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr">If you want to stick within the Ubuntu family, look at Ubuntu Mate. Its an official distro, runs of Canonical resources and tied to the same schedule as regular Ubuntu. <div> </div> <div>Mint I understand hold back certain updates and upgrades, specifically security ones, for whatever reason.</div> <img moz-do-not-send="true" src="mailbox:///home/jan/.thunderbird/yp8u4v2b.default/Mail/Local%20Folders/Drafts?number=199680&si=4577888159924224&pi=e3667cfe-5388-4281-bd03-b73605c988cb" style="display:none!important" height="1" width="1"></div> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 2 May 2015 at 11:47, <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ubuntu-za-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send ubuntu-za mailing list submissions to <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ubuntu-za-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-za-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ubuntu-za-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-za-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-za digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Migrating to Linux (Jan Greeff) 2. Re: Migrating to Linux (Jaco Stroebel) 3. Re: Migrating to Linux (Jan Greeff) 4. Re: Migrating to Linux (Jaco Stroebel) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 18:05:26 +0200 From: Jan Greeff <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jan@verslank.net">jan@verslank.net</a>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: [ubuntu-za] Migrating to Linux Message-ID: <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:5543A446.8000206@verslank.net">5543A446.8000206@verslank.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Hi there all, I think that it's my own fault I did not get any replies to the question in the mail below, I was not very specific about what I need. The questions that I have are: 1. How different is Mint from Ubuntu? I will have to help him, so will the fact that I am reasonably au-fait with Ubuntu enable me to help him, for example, to migrate his e-mails and address list fromWin to Mint? 2. Does Mint store directory files in similar fashion to Ubuntu? 3. Does Ubuntu and Mint share the same software repositories? 4. What version of Linux will run on the ACER Travelmate computer? 5. Will Virtualbox install in Mint in similar fashion to Ubuntu? Best wishes, Jan Good day all, I would like some advice, please, for a friend who is looking to migrate to a Linux system. He is currently operating an ACER Travelmate 4150 on Windows XP, using an Intel Pentium M760 processor (2MB L2 cache, 2.0GHz, 533MHz F58) and using 48GB of the 60GB hard drive. He also has an ACER Aspire One D257 Netbook running on Windows 7 Starter with an Intel Atom N455 processor (1.66GHz, 512KB cache) and 2 GB DDR3 memory, a 320GB hard drive (using 85.2GB) In addition, he is using two 1 TB external drives, one for backups and one for transferring data from one machine to the other. He uses CorelDraw X3 a lot and this is essential. He admits to being loathe to adapt to a different graphics program. Inputs will be appreciated very much. Jan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mint does run some of their own repositories, but mostly piggyback on Ubuntu. In terms of software compatibility, if you use the packages that you are familiar with, i.e. Thunderbird, banshee or whichever, the usage is distro independent. So you should be fully equipped to handle a mint based problem using your skills refined in Ubuntu. In fact, you'll probably not be completely lost on any Debian based machine. On 1 May 2015 18:05, "Jan Greeff" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jan@verslank.net">jan@verslank.net</a>> wrote: > Hi there all, I think that it's my own fault I did not get any replies to > the question in the mail below, I was not very specific about what I need. > > The questions that I have are: > > 1. How different is Mint from Ubuntu? I will have to help him, so will the > fact that I am reasonably au-fait with Ubuntu enable me to help him, for > example, to migrate his e-mails and address list fromWin to Mint? > > 2. Does Mint store directory files in similar fashion to Ubuntu? > > 3. Does Ubuntu and Mint share the same software repositories? > > 4. What version of Linux will run on the ACER Travelmate computer? > > 5. Will Virtualbox install in Mint in similar fashion to Ubuntu? > > Best wishes, > > Jan > > > Good day all, > > I would like some advice, please, for a friend who is looking to migrate > to a Linux system. > > He is currently operating an ACER Travelmate 4150 on Windows XP, using an > Intel Pentium M760 processor (2MB L2 cache, 2.0GHz, 533MHz F58) and using > 48GB of the 60GB hard drive. > > He also has an ACER Aspire One D257 Netbook running on Windows 7 Starter > with an Intel Atom N455 processor (1.66GHz, 512KB cache) and 2 GB DDR3 > memory, a 320GB hard drive (using 85.2GB) > > In addition, he is using two 1 TB external drives, one for backups and > one for transferring data from one machine to the other. > > He uses CorelDraw X3 a lot and this is essential. He admits to being > loathe to adapt to a different graphics program. > > Inputs will be appreciated very much. > > Jan > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-za mailing list > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za</a> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a specific Linux OS that you can recommend which will run on that old ACER Travelmate? Best wishes, Jan On 01/05/2015 18:20, Jaco Stroebel wrote: > > Hey Jan, > > Yes to all of those. Mint does run some of their own repositories, but > mostly piggyback on Ubuntu. > > In terms of software compatibility, if you use the packages that you > are familiar with, i.e. Thunderbird, banshee or whichever, the usage > is distro independent. So you should be fully equipped to handle a > mint based problem using your skills refined in Ubuntu. In fact, > you'll probably not be completely lost on any Debian based machine. > > On 1 May 2015 18:05, "Jan Greeff" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jan@verslank.net">jan@verslank.net</a> > <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jan@verslank.net">jan@verslank.net</a>>> wrote: > > Hi there all, I think that it's my own fault I did not get any > replies to the question in the mail below, I was not very specific > about what I need. > > The questions that I have are: > > 1. How different is Mint from Ubuntu? I will have to help him, so > will the fact that I am reasonably au-fait with Ubuntu enable me > to help him, for example, to migrate his e-mails and address list > fromWin to Mint? > > 2. Does Mint store directory files in similar fashion to Ubuntu? > > 3. Does Ubuntu and Mint share the same software repositories? > > 4. What version of Linux will run on the ACER Travelmate computer? > > 5. Will Virtualbox install in Mint in similar fashion to Ubuntu? > > Best wishes, > > Jan > > > Good day all, > > I would like some advice, please, for a friend who is looking to > migrate to a Linux system. > > He is currently operating an ACER Travelmate 4150 on Windows XP, > using an Intel Pentium M760 processor (2MB L2 cache, 2.0GHz, > 533MHz F58) and using 48GB of the 60GB hard drive. > > He also has an ACER Aspire One D257 Netbook running on Windows 7 > Starter with an Intel Atom N455 processor (1.66GHz, 512KB cache) > and 2 GB DDR3 memory, a 320GB hard drive (using 85.2GB) > > In addition, he is using two 1 TB external drives, one for backups > and one for transferring data from one machine to the other. > > He uses CorelDraw X3 a lot and this is essential. He admits to > being loathe to adapt to a different graphics program. > > Inputs will be appreciated very much. > > Jan > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-za mailing list > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za</a> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If the atom is capable of running Windows 7, it would probably also run either of those comfortably with some memory to spare. The main issue that I have with low memory machines is browsing. Both chrome and Firefox have a nasty tendency to gobble RAM. Running wine and in illustration program like CorelDraw may also lead to memory hiccups from time to time. Or, at least, that is what I would expect. See what happens and report back. Regards, Jaco P.S. I accidentally responded directly instead of to the list. So this is a repost. My apologies. On 2 May 2015 11:33, "Jan Greeff" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jan@verslank.net">jan@verslank.net</a>> wrote: > Many thanks Jaco, that helps a lot. > > Is there a specific Linux OS that you can recommend which will run on that > old ACER Travelmate? > > Best wishes, > > Jan > > On 01/05/2015 18:20, Jaco Stroebel wrote: > > Hey Jan, > > Yes to all of those. Mint does run some of their own repositories, but > mostly piggyback on Ubuntu. > > In terms of software compatibility, if you use the packages that you are > familiar with, i.e. Thunderbird, banshee or whichever, the usage is distro > independent. So you should be fully equipped to handle a mint based problem > using your skills refined in Ubuntu. In fact, you'll probably not be > completely lost on any Debian based machine. > On 1 May 2015 18:05, "Jan Greeff" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jan@verslank.net">jan@verslank.net</a>> wrote: > >> Hi there all, I think that it's my own fault I did not get any replies >> to the question in the mail below, I was not very specific about what I >> need. >> >> The questions that I have are: >> >> 1. How different is Mint from Ubuntu? I will have to help him, so will >> the fact that I am reasonably au-fait with Ubuntu enable me to help him, >> for example, to migrate his e-mails and address list fromWin to Mint? >> >> 2. Does Mint store directory files in similar fashion to Ubuntu? >> >> 3. Does Ubuntu and Mint share the same software repositories? >> >> 4. What version of Linux will run on the ACER Travelmate computer? >> >> 5. Will Virtualbox install in Mint in similar fashion to Ubuntu? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jan >> >> >> Good day all, >> >> I would like some advice, please, for a friend who is looking to migrate >> to a Linux system. >> >> He is currently operating an ACER Travelmate 4150 on Windows XP, using an >> Intel Pentium M760 processor (2MB L2 cache, 2.0GHz, 533MHz F58) and using >> 48GB of the 60GB hard drive. >> >> He also has an ACER Aspire One D257 Netbook running on Windows 7 Starter >> with an Intel Atom N455 processor (1.66GHz, 512KB cache) and 2 GB DDR3 >> memory, a 320GB hard drive (using 85.2GB) >> >> In addition, he is using two 1 TB external drives, one for backups and >> one for transferring data from one machine to the other. >> >> He uses CorelDraw X3 a lot and this is essential. 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