Hi Shafi I got mine from: <a href="http://www.laptopdirect.co.za/">http://www.laptopdirect.co.za/</a> Just click on all the manufacturers at the top, each of those pages has a filter for OS... - Nashvin <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Shafi Ghansar <<a href="mailto:shafi@webmail.co.za">shafi@webmail.co.za</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>Hi all,</div> <div> </div> <div>I'm currently shopping around for a laptop to use as an Ubuntu based development machine.</div> <div>I just thought I'd ask if anyone knows if there are local suppliers of laptops in SA that have an option of buying the laptop sans OS?</div> <div>I don't want to pay for Windows if I don't have to ;)</div> <div> </div> <div>Cheers!</div> <div>Shafi </div> <div class="gmail_quote">On 18 April 2011 10:56, <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-za-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Send ubuntu-za mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-za-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:ubuntu-za-owner@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-za digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Basic screensaver (Nic Roets) 2. Re: 11.04 Beta 2 (Lee Sharp) 3. Re: 11.04 Beta 2 (Raoul Snyman) 4. Re: 11.04 Beta 2 (Raoul Snyman) 5. Kubuntu questions (<a href="mailto:wikus@cheetah-microsystems.com" target="_blank">wikus@cheetah-microsystems.com</a>) 6. Re: Kubuntu questions (Raoul Snyman) 7. Re: Kubuntu questions (Dani?l Louw) 8. Re: Kubuntu questions (David Rubin) 9. Re: A Local forum (Peter Nel) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:52:10 +0200 From: Nic Roets <<a href="mailto:nroets@gmail.com" target="_blank">nroets@gmail.com</a>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Basic screensaver Message-ID: <BANLkTin3P9_r9+0D91YQcL-5ZMvUen5f=<a href="mailto:A@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">A@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Charl, You can choose the GLslideshow component using xscreensaver-demo. Make a directory with jpgs and set it under Advanced. Regards, Nic On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Charl Wentzel <<a href="mailto:charl.wentzel@vodamail.co.za" target="_blank">charl.wentzel@vodamail.co.za</a>> wrote: > Hi guys > > I'm busy with an interesting project... > > I created a basic user terminal which only requires a web browser. ?Started > with Ubuntu 10.04 Server edition and added: > - openbox > - slim (login manager) > - feh (image viewer to draw background) > - lxpanel > - chromium-browser > - rox-filer (file manager) > - xscreensaver > > I'm now working on the screensaver. ?I'm looking for a simple screensaver > that can show a logo image only, bouncing or jumping around. (Like one of > the standard Windows screensavers.) However, I can't find a screensaver like > that in the screensaver list. > > Anyone knows where I can find one? > > Regards > Charl > > Sent from my HTC > > > -- > ubuntu-za mailing list > <a href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za</a> > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400 From: Lee Sharp <<a href="mailto:leesharp@hal-pc.org" target="_blank">leesharp@hal-pc.org</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2 Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4DAB9B1C.4000401@hal-pc.org" target="_blank">4DAB9B1C.4000401@hal-pc.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 04/17/2011 02:09 PM, Raoul Snyman wrote: > On Sunday 17 April 2011 19:55:04 Hilton Gibson wrote: >> If so, then why is this possible with Gnome and not KDE4 >> <a href="http://www.ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/W7_Theme" target="_blank">http://www.ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/W7_Theme</a> > > Why would you want to make your Linux computer look like Windows? Oh wait, I > forgot, Gnome is pretty plain. Don't need to do that in KDE, cause it already > looks awesome :-P Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright Apple Computer :) Lee ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:43:45 +0200 From: Raoul Snyman <<a href="mailto:raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za" target="_blank">raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za</a>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2 Message-ID: <344ccd9fe3c2eb2cb62b28b8dd121246@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400, Lee Sharp <<a href="mailto:leesharp@hal-pc.org" target="_blank">leesharp@hal-pc.org</a>> wrote: > Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright Apple Computer Who's "we", paleface? -- Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering) Saturn Laboratories m: 082 550 3754 e: <a href="mailto:raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za" target="_blank">raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za</a> w: <a href="http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/" target="_blank">www.saturnlaboratories.co.za</a> b: <a href="http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/" target="_blank">blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za</a> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:50:54 +0200 From: Raoul Snyman <<a href="mailto:raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za" target="_blank">raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za</a>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2 Message-ID: <3637672f80a8a8b874b8e57f426b86e6@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400, Lee Sharp <<a href="mailto:leesharp@hal-pc.org" target="_blank">leesharp@hal-pc.org</a>> wrote: > Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright Apple Computer Besides, I never said KDE 4 *can't* do that, I just said I don't see the point why anyone would want to make their Linux computer look like Windows. -- Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering) Saturn Laboratories m: 082 550 3754 e: <a href="mailto:raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za" target="_blank">raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za</a> w: <a href="http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/" target="_blank">www.saturnlaboratories.co.za</a> b: <a href="http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/" target="_blank">blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za</a> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200 From: <<a href="mailto:wikus@cheetah-microsystems.com" target="_blank">wikus@cheetah-microsystems.com</a>> To: <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:506016C98C4544368234BF1CA13D2987.MAI@cozadomains.com" target="_blank">506016C98C4544368234BF1CA13D2987.MAI@cozadomains.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/attachments/20110418/89c30391/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/attachments/20110418/89c30391/attachment-0001.html</a>> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:41:48 +0200 From: Raoul Snyman <<a href="mailto:raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za" target="_blank">raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za</a>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions Message-ID: <a70ab541321ba870cbeabd4cfb835df9@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Wikus, On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200, <<a href="mailto:wikus@cheetah-microsystems.com" target="_blank">wikus@cheetah-microsystems.com</a>> wrote: > I am thinking of trying Kubuntu. I have only used normal Ubuntu before and > build up a huge base of manualsand documents on how to do things. My > question is , how much of that is the same in Kubuntu and how muchwill I > have to start from scratch learning again. Most of the concepts are the same, even if you're using a different app. For instance, a text editor is a text editor, whether you're using gedit or Kate. > 1. Installing software (apt-get and synaptec the same in Kubuntu) Kubuntu has apt-get, but uses KPackageKit instead of Synaptic. > 2. Installing multimedia support In Ubuntu you install "ubuntu-restricted-extras". In Kubuntu you install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" > 3. Installing encoders such as ffmpeg4. > Installing LAMP You'll install the same packages in Kubuntu as you would in Ubuntu. > So basically what I want to know is everything under the hood the same and > is it only the desktop environment that differs ? Yes. -- Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering) Saturn Laboratories m: 082 550 3754 e: <a href="mailto:raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za" target="_blank">raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za</a> w: <a href="http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/" target="_blank">www.saturnlaboratories.co.za</a> b: <a href="http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/" target="_blank">blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za</a> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:22:03 +0200 From: Dani?l Louw <<a href="mailto:daniel@dline.co.za" target="_blank">daniel@dline.co.za</a>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTinA3tXMdPmugYppbMKhQXQ7tiHZhA@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">BANLkTinA3tXMdPmugYppbMKhQXQ7tiHZhA@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yup, Under the hood very much the same. I used KDE for a while, and I mostly used Ubuntu tutorials online, as they are more available. One handy thing to know is that in general, KDE libraries/packages start with a k (kate), and Gnome's start with a G (gedit). This is not always true, but a good indicator. When you're in Gnome, and you want to install a KDE package, you can expect to install quite a few kDependencies, and the same is true for vice versa. Software wise I am yet to find something that is not cross-compatible with the two. -- Regards *Dani?l Louw* ================================ <a href="mailto:daniel@dline.co.za" target="_blank">daniel@dline.co.za</a> <a href="http://www.dline.co.za/" target="_blank">www.dline.co.za</a> <a href="tel:%2B27%2084%202499%20299" value="+27842499299" target="_blank">+27 84 2499 299</a> <a href="tel:%2B12%2012%20347%208305" value="+12123478305" target="_blank">+12 12 347 8305</a> ================================ *"Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft building progress by weight." - *Bill Gates -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have only used normal Ubuntu before > and > > build up a huge base of manualsand documents on how to do things. My > > question is , how much of that is the same in Kubuntu and how muchwill I > > have to start from scratch learning again. > > Most of the concepts are the same, even if you're using a different app. > For instance, a text editor is a text editor, whether you're using gedit or > Kate. > > > 1. Installing software (apt-get and synaptec the same in Kubuntu) > Generally as a rule command line applications will all be the same. it is the GUI apps that change. David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I for one would be interested in reading about hacking all sorts of weird devices, including motors, and wotnot; some running ubuntu, some other distros, or some maybe firmware based chip programming, or whatever. Some of the stuff that would actually be relevant in this list will go there, and we'll miss out. Is this other content really so off-topic that we need a separate forum? Is there really enough of such content to justify it? I've seen the window-wiper-motor post that started this thread, and that's basically it.. If it does happen, it should perhaps be integrated into the mailing-list system where one can post by replying (negating the need for a separate forum); or else, it should go somewhere else entirely - perhaps gumtree ;-) -- P?ter Nel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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