<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm also using Thunderbird. For this list, i usually only get the digest with a summary of mails, e.g. Subject: "ubuntu-za Digest, Vol 40, issue 1" (,2,3... etc) It's a summary of the last couple of mail exchanges. .. these don't display the characters correctly (as '?'); even looking at your mail there, the e-acute is wrong. When looking directly at the email source (in thunderbird, select mail, press Ctrl+U), the characters are also wrong ('?'), so they are mangled before they get to my inbox. Otherwise I get direct replies from people (like you) where the characters are correct. I've also checked the web archives of these last couple of mails:    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2009-January/date.html">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2009-January/date.html</a> (This was a question recently... even the mail I just sent is archived already!) They display the chars correctly. They're not in digest form. I think it the mail system may be 'Over-digesting' the mails... I also really dislike the way html mails gets 'scrubbed'.. only providing a link to the original msg. Scrubbed text embedded in the mail would have been better! Other mailing lists send each mail out directly - here i get digests.. which also makes it harder to reply to an individual message. It must have been an option i selected when joining, but I can't change it now. Most of the time a digest is all I really need, but it needs to be improved IMHO Péter Nel _______________________________________________ "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security"            - Benjamin Franklin CM Schoonbee wrote: > That's so easy!  It works like a charm 'out of the box'. I just had >  to be told the correct compose key - thanks for that. > > I had already tried the 'normal' left alt key.  I did not realise > that the left and right alt keys are treated as distinct. > > What do you mean the special character comes through as '?' from > the mailing list - I see the é (see, I can do it too now :-) ) just > fine in your name in the mailing list emails.  I am using > Thunderbird. Or did I misunderstand you? > > Regards, Chris > > Péter Nel wrote: The special character (e-acute-accent) comes > through as '?' when arriving from the mailing-list (i guess it's > because mail used to only understand ascii, perhaps the list server > isn't configured to process those characters correctly.. > > The default way in ubuntu is to use the "compose" key, I think the > default key is GrAlt (right alt); e.g.: <compose> ' e := é > (e-acute) <compose> <shift-6> e := <compose> ^ e := ê > (e-circumflex) <compose> a e := æ (ae) <compose> <shift-'> > <shift-A> := <compose> " A :=  Ä (capital A with diaeresis/umlaut) > > ... easy! > > See complete list here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hermit.org/Linux/ComposeKeys.html">http://hermit.org/Linux/ComposeKeys.html</a> > > Mine is custom set to rwin (right 'windows' key). > > If didn't work out-of-the-box, it used to be specified in > /etc/X11/xorg.conf. My current entry is.. # commented out by > update-manager, HAL is now used #Section "InputDevice" # > Identifier    "Generic Keyboard" #    Driver        "kbd" # > Option        "XkbRules"    "xorg" #    Option        "XkbModel" > "pc104" #    Option        "XkbLayout"    "us" #    Option > "XkbOptions"     "compose:rwin" #EndSection > > ..the "XkbOptions" line. As the comment says, HAL is now being used >  (since intrepid), and that setting doesn't work anymore... The > 8.10 release notes > (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#X.Org%20Input%20Devices">http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#X.Org%20Input%20Devices</a>) > > > states the input device settings moved to > /etc/default/console-setup; near the end of mine (i think I had to > modify this manually back then) I've got: ... # The following > variables describe your keyboard and can have the same # values as > the XkbModel, XkbLayout, XkbVariant and XkbOptions options # in > /etc/X11/xorg.conf. XKBMODEL="pc104" XKBLAYOUT="us" XKBVARIANT="" > XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch,compose:rwin" ... > > I think you need to run $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup to > change it. > > Then you need to restart X & HAL (i.e. reboot system) > > Hope it helps. > > > > PS This is why I love this OS - the above is the crystallized form > of hours worth of effort getting mine to work.. he he > > PPS What can be done to fix the character sent out by the mailing > list? Anyone? > > Péter Nel _______________________________________________ "They who > would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve > neither liberty nor security" - Benjamin Franklin > > > > CM Schoonbee wrote: > >>>> Hi Peter, >>>> >>>> >>>> Looking through your info, I can find nothing that looks >>>> relevant in common between our systems (except the Realtek >>>> ethernet controller!).  So this may be a fairly common >>>> problem with default installs. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Chris >>>> >>>> PS How do you create the special character in your first name >>>> in an email? >>>> >>>> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</a> iEYEARECAAYFAklvC28ACgkQVeyk97gakq7bHwCdGHLGxuHxc2jE3x9mi28zGKm/ o94An08+kfsTAZDz6qsria9bQNp/kpDh =YV1o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </body> </html>