[ubuntu-za] ubuntu-Laptop
Mohamed Yusuff Kikia
moki at mweb.co.za
Mon Apr 18 16:52:46 UTC 2011
Linux Mint worked flawlessly out of the box on my Acer Netbook. I am sure Ubuntu will work as well on other Acer machines. Ubuntu and many other linux packages do not work very well on my Fujitsu Siemens Laptop. The USB ports do not work and need a bit of fiddling each time to read them. I definitely would not recommend this laptop for linux. Thats my 2 cents worth!
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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:05:29 +0200
From: Hilton Gibson
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Laptop without OS option
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On 18/04/2011 15:59, Wikus wrote:
> That lists didn't help me much when I bought my laptop.
> Most laptops on those lists isn't even available in SA
>
> - Wikus
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 15:46 +0200, Jason McBeath wrote:
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1543006 - laptop
>> compatibility list
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1543009 - laptop
>> incompatibility list
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From*: wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com
>>
>> *To*: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> *Subject*: Re: [ubuntu-za] Laptop without OS option
>> *Date*: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:57:46 +0200
>>
>>
>>
>> Adding to this , I think it will be good if those of us who have
>> laptops that works with Ubuntu can post the make and models. Can help
>> the gentleman a lot in choosing one.
>>
>> - Wikus
>>
>> *----- Original Message -----*
>> *From:* Nashvin Gangaram [mailto:nashving at gmail.com]
>> *To:* shafi at webmail.co.za,ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> *Sent:* Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:55:30 +0200
>> *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-za] Laptop without OS option
>>
>> Hi Shafi
>>
>> I got mine from:
>> http://www.laptopdirect.co.za/
>>
>> Just click on all the manufacturers at the top, each of those pages
>> has a filter for OS...
>>
>> - Nashvin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Shafi Ghansar >> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm currently shopping around for a laptop to use as an Ubuntu
>> based development machine.
>> I just thought I'd ask if anyone knows if there are local
>> suppliers of laptops in SA that have an option of buying the
>> laptop sans OS?
>> I don't want to pay for Windows if I don't have to ;)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Shafi
>>
>>
>> On 18 April 2011 10:56, >> wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Basic screensaver (Nic Roets)
>> 2. Re: 11.04 Beta 2 (Lee Sharp)
>> 3. Re: 11.04 Beta 2 (Raoul Snyman)
>> 4. Re: 11.04 Beta 2 (Raoul Snyman)
>> 5. Kubuntu questions (wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com
>>)
>> 6. Re: Kubuntu questions (Raoul Snyman)
>> 7. Re: Kubuntu questions (Dani?l Louw)
>> 8. Re: Kubuntu questions (David Rubin)
>> 9. Re: A Local forum (Peter Nel)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:52:10 +0200
>> From: Nic Roets >
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Basic screensaver
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Hello Charl,
>>
>> You can choose the GLslideshow component using
>> xscreensaver-demo. Make
>> a directory with jpgs and set it under Advanced.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Charl Wentzel
>>>> wrote:
>> > Hi guys
>> >
>> > I'm busy with an interesting project...
>> >
>> > I created a basic user terminal which only requires a web
>> browser. ?Started
>> > with Ubuntu 10.04 Server edition and added:
>> > - openbox
>> > - slim (login manager)
>> > - feh (image viewer to draw background)
>> > - lxpanel
>> > - chromium-browser
>> > - rox-filer (file manager)
>> > - xscreensaver
>> >
>> > I'm now working on the screensaver. ?I'm looking for a
>> simple screensaver
>> > that can show a logo image only, bouncing or jumping around.
>> (Like one of
>> > the standard Windows screensavers.) However, I can't find a
>> screensaver like
>> > that in the screensaver list.
>> >
>> > Anyone knows where I can find one?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Charl
>> >
>> > Sent from my HTC
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400
>> From: Lee Sharp >
>> To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2
>> Message-ID: >>
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>> On 04/17/2011 02:09 PM, Raoul Snyman wrote:
>> > On Sunday 17 April 2011 19:55:04 Hilton Gibson wrote:
>> >> If so, then why is this possible with Gnome and not KDE4
>> >> http://www.ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/W7_Theme
>> >
>> > Why would you want to make your Linux computer look like
>> Windows? Oh wait, I
>> > forgot, Gnome is pretty plain. Don't need to do that in KDE,
>> cause it already
>> > looks awesome :-P
>>
>> Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright
>> Apple Computer
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:43:45 +0200
>> From: Raoul Snyman >>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2
>> Message-ID:
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>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400, Lee Sharp
>>> wrote:
>> > Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright
>> Apple Computer
>>
>> Who's "we", paleface?
>>
>> --
>> Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering)
>> Saturn Laboratories
>> m: 082 550 3754
>> e: raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>>
>> w: www.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>>
>> b: blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:50:54 +0200
>> From: Raoul Snyman >>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2
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>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400, Lee Sharp
>>> wrote:
>> > Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright
>> Apple Computer
>>
>> Besides, I never said KDE 4 *can't* do that, I just said I
>> don't see the
>> point why anyone would want to make their Linux computer look
>> like Windows.
>>
>> --
>> Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering)
>> Saturn Laboratories
>> m: 082 550 3754
>> e: raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>>
>> w: www.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>>
>> b: blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200
>> From: >>
>> To: >>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:41:48 +0200
>> From: Raoul Snyman >>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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>> Hi Wikus,
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200,
>>>>
>> wrote:
>> > I am thinking of trying Kubuntu. I have only used normal
>> Ubuntu before
>> and
>> > build up a huge base of manualsand documents on how to do
>> things. My
>> > question is , how much of that is the same in Kubuntu and
>> how muchwill I
>> > have to start from scratch learning again.
>>
>> Most of the concepts are the same, even if you're using a
>> different app.
>> For instance, a text editor is a text editor, whether you're
>> using gedit or
>> Kate.
>>
>> > 1. Installing software (apt-get and synaptec the same in
>> Kubuntu)
>>
>> Kubuntu has apt-get, but uses KPackageKit instead of Synaptic.
>>
>> > 2. Installing multimedia support
>>
>> In Ubuntu you install "ubuntu-restricted-extras". In Kubuntu
>> you install
>> "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
>>
>> > 3. Installing encoders such as ffmpeg4.
>> > Installing LAMP
>>
>> You'll install the same packages in Kubuntu as you would in
>> Ubuntu.
>>
>> > So basically what I want to know is everything under the
>> hood the same
>> and
>> > is it only the desktop environment that differs ?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering)
>> Saturn Laboratories
>> m: 082 550 3754
>> e: raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>>
>> w: www.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>>
>> b: blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:22:03 +0200
>> From: Dani?l Louw >
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
>> Message-ID:
>>>>
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>>
>> Yup, Under the hood very much the same.
>>
>> I used KDE for a while, and I mostly used Ubuntu tutorials
>> online, as they
>> are more available.
>>
>> One handy thing to know is that in general, KDE
>> libraries/packages start
>> with a k (kate), and Gnome's start with a G (gedit). This is
>> not always
>> true, but a good indicator. When you're in Gnome, and you want
>> to install a
>> KDE package, you can expect to install quite a few
>> kDependencies, and the
>> same is true for vice versa. Software wise I am yet to find
>> something that
>> is not cross-compatible with the two.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> *Dani?l Louw*
>> ================================
>> daniel at dline.co.za
>> www.dline.co.za
>> +27 84 2499 299
>> +12 12 347 8305
>> ================================
>> *"Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like
>> measuring aircraft
>> building progress by weight." - *Bill Gates
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:24:07 +0200
>> From: David Rubin >
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
>> Message-ID:
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>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Raoul Snyman > raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Wikus,
>> >
>> > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200,
>>>>
>> > wrote:
>> > > I am thinking of trying Kubuntu. I have only used normal
>> Ubuntu before
>> > and
>> > > build up a huge base of manualsand documents on how to do
>> things. My
>> > > question is , how much of that is the same in Kubuntu and
>> how muchwill I
>> > > have to start from scratch learning again.
>> >
>> > Most of the concepts are the same, even if you're using a
>> different app.
>> > For instance, a text editor is a text editor, whether you're
>> using gedit or
>> > Kate.
>> >
>> > > 1. Installing software (apt-get and synaptec the same in
>> Kubuntu)
>> >
>>
>> Generally as a rule command line applications will all be the
>> same. it is
>> the GUI apps that change.
>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 10:56:39 +0200
>> From: Peter Nel >
>> To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] A Local forum
>> Message-ID:
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>> Just my thought on this idea.. wouldn't this cause a split in this
>> list-community?
>>
>> I for one would be interested in reading about hacking all
>> sorts of weird
>> devices, including motors, and wotnot; some running ubuntu,
>> some other
>> distros, or some maybe firmware based chip programming, or
>> whatever.
>> Some of the stuff that would actually be relevant in this list
>> will go
>> there, and we'll miss out.
>>
>> Is this other content really so off-topic that we need a
>> separate forum? Is
>> there really enough of such content to justify it? I've seen the
>> window-wiper-motor post that started this thread, and that's
>> basically it..
>>
>> If it does happen, it should perhaps be integrated into
>> the mailing-list system where one can post by replying
>> (negating the need
>> for a separate forum); or else, it should go somewhere else
>> entirely -
>> perhaps gumtree ;-)
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:04:41 +0200
From: Jason McBeath
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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If you have your Ubuntu setup the way you like it, you can also just
install KDE and then choose between Gnome and KDE at startup. You will
pull in a lot of Qt dependancies, and you system will have both gtk and
qt stuff, but if you have a decent machine, you wont notice any
performance issues.
I'm currently running Ultimate Edition on this machine, and it's pretty
much a cherry pick flavour of Gnome and KDE bits. I find it very good.
On standard Ubuntu, I find myself installing qt stuff anyway, cause
things like Brasero are garbage, and k3b works well for me.
I have been running both Gnome and KDE versions of various *nix flavours
for several years now, so I like some bits of both.
Except for Fedora 15a, I am slowly falling in love with Gnome3...
J
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From: Raoul Snyman
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:41:48 +0200
Hi Wikus,
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200,
wrote:
> I am thinking of trying Kubuntu. I have only used normal Ubuntu before
and
> build up a huge base of manualsand documents on how to do things. My
> question is , how much of that is the same in Kubuntu and how muchwill I
> have to start from scratch learning again.
Most of the concepts are the same, even if you're using a different app.
For instance, a text editor is a text editor, whether you're using gedit or
Kate.
> 1. Installing software (apt-get and synaptec the same in Kubuntu)
Kubuntu has apt-get, but uses KPackageKit instead of Synaptic.
> 2. Installing multimedia support
In Ubuntu you install "ubuntu-restricted-extras". In Kubuntu you install
"kubuntu-restricted-extras"
> 3. Installing encoders such as ffmpeg4.
> Installing LAMP
You'll install the same packages in Kubuntu as you would in Ubuntu.
> So basically what I want to know is everything under the hood the same
and
> is it only the desktop environment that differs ?
Yes.
--
Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering)
Saturn Laboratories
m: 082 550 3754
e: raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
w: www.saturnlaboratories.co.za
b: blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za
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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:17:41 +0200
From: Jason McBeath
To: Hilton Gibson
Cc: Ubuntu South African Local Community
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Laptop without OS option
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Weird, of my five current laptops, all are on the list somewhere, and
all where bought locally. And my parents three lappies.
What I found most usefull however, was the actual hardware issues, like
"this wireless card can give issues, but the soultion is here, or that
video adapter can work with the driver located there"
That sort of thing.
Laptops are like most computers these days, generic stuff in a brand
name box. If the stuff inside works with your distro, it deosn't really
matter what label is on the cover.
> That lists didn't help me much when I bought my laptop.
> Most laptops on those lists isn't even available in SA
>
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