[ubuntu-za] Laptop without OS option
Hilton Gibson
hilton.gibson at gmail.com
Mon Apr 18 14:05:29 UTC 2011
On 18/04/2011 15:59, Wikus wrote:
> That lists didn't help me much when I bought my laptop.
> Most laptops on those lists isn't even available in SA
>
> - Wikus
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 15:46 +0200, Jason McBeath wrote:
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1543006 - laptop
>> compatibility list
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1543009 - laptop
>> incompatibility list
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From*: wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com
>> <mailto:wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com>
>> *To*: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> *Subject*: Re: [ubuntu-za] Laptop without OS option
>> *Date*: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:57:46 +0200
>>
>>
>>
>> Adding to this , I think it will be good if those of us who have
>> laptops that works with Ubuntu can post the make and models. Can help
>> the gentleman a lot in choosing one.
>>
>> - Wikus
>>
>> *----- Original Message -----*
>> *From:* Nashvin Gangaram [mailto:nashving at gmail.com]
>> *To:* shafi at webmail.co.za,ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> *Sent:* Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:55:30 +0200
>> *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-za] Laptop without OS option
>>
>> Hi Shafi
>>
>> I got mine from:
>> http://www.laptopdirect.co.za/
>>
>> Just click on all the manufacturers at the top, each of those pages
>> has a filter for OS...
>>
>> - Nashvin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Shafi Ghansar <shafi at webmail.co.za
>> <mailto:shafi at webmail.co.za>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm currently shopping around for a laptop to use as an Ubuntu
>> based development machine.
>> I just thought I'd ask if anyone knows if there are local
>> suppliers of laptops in SA that have an option of buying the
>> laptop sans OS?
>> I don't want to pay for Windows if I don't have to ;)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Shafi
>>
>>
>> On 18 April 2011 10:56, <ubuntu-za-request at lists.ubuntu.com
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>> 1. Re: Basic screensaver (Nic Roets)
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>> 3. Re: 11.04 Beta 2 (Raoul Snyman)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:52:10 +0200
>> From: Nic Roets <nroets at gmail.com <mailto:nroets at gmail.com>>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>> <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Basic screensaver
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>> Hello Charl,
>>
>> You can choose the GLslideshow component using
>> xscreensaver-demo. Make
>> a directory with jpgs and set it under Advanced.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Charl Wentzel
>> <charl.wentzel at vodamail.co.za
>> <mailto:charl.wentzel at vodamail.co.za>> wrote:
>> > Hi guys
>> >
>> > I'm busy with an interesting project...
>> >
>> > I created a basic user terminal which only requires a web
>> browser. ?Started
>> > with Ubuntu 10.04 Server edition and added:
>> > - openbox
>> > - slim (login manager)
>> > - feh (image viewer to draw background)
>> > - lxpanel
>> > - chromium-browser
>> > - rox-filer (file manager)
>> > - xscreensaver
>> >
>> > I'm now working on the screensaver. ?I'm looking for a
>> simple screensaver
>> > that can show a logo image only, bouncing or jumping around.
>> (Like one of
>> > the standard Windows screensavers.) However, I can't find a
>> screensaver like
>> > that in the screensaver list.
>> >
>> > Anyone knows where I can find one?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Charl
>> >
>> > Sent from my HTC
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400
>> From: Lee Sharp <leesharp at hal-pc.org <mailto:leesharp at hal-pc.org>>
>> To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2
>> Message-ID: <4DAB9B1C.4000401 at hal-pc.org
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>> On 04/17/2011 02:09 PM, Raoul Snyman wrote:
>> > On Sunday 17 April 2011 19:55:04 Hilton Gibson wrote:
>> >> If so, then why is this possible with Gnome and not KDE4
>> >> http://www.ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/W7_Theme
>> >
>> > Why would you want to make your Linux computer look like
>> Windows? Oh wait, I
>> > forgot, Gnome is pretty plain. Don't need to do that in KDE,
>> cause it already
>> > looks awesome :-P
>>
>> Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright
>> Apple Computer
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:43:45 +0200
>> From: Raoul Snyman <raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <mailto:raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>> <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2
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>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400, Lee Sharp
>> <leesharp at hal-pc.org <mailto:leesharp at hal-pc.org>> wrote:
>> > Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright
>> Apple Computer
>>
>> Who's "we", paleface?
>>
>> --
>> Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering)
>> Saturn Laboratories
>> m: 082 550 3754
>> e: raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <mailto:raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>
>> w: www.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/>
>> b: blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:50:54 +0200
>> From: Raoul Snyman <raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <mailto:raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>> <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2
>> Message-ID: <3637672f80a8a8b874b8e57f426b86e6 at localhost>
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>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400, Lee Sharp
>> <leesharp at hal-pc.org <mailto:leesharp at hal-pc.org>> wrote:
>> > Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright
>> Apple Computer
>>
>> Besides, I never said KDE 4 *can't* do that, I just said I
>> don't see the
>> point why anyone would want to make their Linux computer look
>> like Windows.
>>
>> --
>> Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering)
>> Saturn Laboratories
>> m: 082 550 3754
>> e: raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <mailto:raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>
>> w: www.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/>
>> b: blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200
>> From: <wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com
>> <mailto:wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com>>
>> To: <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:41:48 +0200
>> From: Raoul Snyman <raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <mailto:raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>> <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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>> Hi Wikus,
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200,
>> <wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com
>> <mailto:wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > I am thinking of trying Kubuntu. I have only used normal
>> Ubuntu before
>> and
>> > build up a huge base of manualsand documents on how to do
>> things. My
>> > question is , how much of that is the same in Kubuntu and
>> how muchwill I
>> > have to start from scratch learning again.
>>
>> Most of the concepts are the same, even if you're using a
>> different app.
>> For instance, a text editor is a text editor, whether you're
>> using gedit or
>> Kate.
>>
>> > 1. Installing software (apt-get and synaptec the same in
>> Kubuntu)
>>
>> Kubuntu has apt-get, but uses KPackageKit instead of Synaptic.
>>
>> > 2. Installing multimedia support
>>
>> In Ubuntu you install "ubuntu-restricted-extras". In Kubuntu
>> you install
>> "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
>>
>> > 3. Installing encoders such as ffmpeg4.
>> > Installing LAMP
>>
>> You'll install the same packages in Kubuntu as you would in
>> Ubuntu.
>>
>> > So basically what I want to know is everything under the
>> hood the same
>> and
>> > is it only the desktop environment that differs ?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Raoul Snyman, B.Tech IT (Software Engineering)
>> Saturn Laboratories
>> m: 082 550 3754
>> e: raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <mailto:raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>
>> w: www.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/>
>> b: blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:22:03 +0200
>> From: Dani?l Louw <daniel at dline.co.za <mailto:daniel at dline.co.za>>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>> <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
>> Message-ID:
>> <BANLkTinA3tXMdPmugYppbMKhQXQ7tiHZhA at mail.gmail.com
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>> Yup, Under the hood very much the same.
>>
>> I used KDE for a while, and I mostly used Ubuntu tutorials
>> online, as they
>> are more available.
>>
>> One handy thing to know is that in general, KDE
>> libraries/packages start
>> with a k (kate), and Gnome's start with a G (gedit). This is
>> not always
>> true, but a good indicator. When you're in Gnome, and you want
>> to install a
>> KDE package, you can expect to install quite a few
>> kDependencies, and the
>> same is true for vice versa. Software wise I am yet to find
>> something that
>> is not cross-compatible with the two.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> *Dani?l Louw*
>> ================================
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:24:07 +0200
>> From: David Rubin <drubin at ubuntu.com <mailto:drubin at ubuntu.com>>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>> <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Raoul Snyman <
>> raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za
>> <mailto:raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Wikus,
>> >
>> > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200,
>> <wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com
>> <mailto:wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com>>
>> > wrote:
>> > > I am thinking of trying Kubuntu. I have only used normal
>> Ubuntu before
>> > and
>> > > build up a huge base of manualsand documents on how to do
>> things. My
>> > > question is , how much of that is the same in Kubuntu and
>> how muchwill I
>> > > have to start from scratch learning again.
>> >
>> > Most of the concepts are the same, even if you're using a
>> different app.
>> > For instance, a text editor is a text editor, whether you're
>> using gedit or
>> > Kate.
>> >
>> > > 1. Installing software (apt-get and synaptec the same in
>> Kubuntu)
>> >
>>
>> Generally as a rule command line applications will all be the
>> same. it is
>> the GUI apps that change.
>>
>> David
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 10:56:39 +0200
>> From: Peter Nel <fourdots at gmail.com <mailto:fourdots at gmail.com>>
>> To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] A Local forum
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>> Just my thought on this idea.. wouldn't this cause a split in this
>> list-community?
>>
>> I for one would be interested in reading about hacking all
>> sorts of weird
>> devices, including motors, and wotnot; some running ubuntu,
>> some other
>> distros, or some maybe firmware based chip programming, or
>> whatever.
>> Some of the stuff that would actually be relevant in this list
>> will go
>> there, and we'll miss out.
>>
>> Is this other content really so off-topic that we need a
>> separate forum? Is
>> there really enough of such content to justify it? I've seen the
>> window-wiper-motor post that started this thread, and that's
>> basically it..
>>
>> If it does happen, it should perhaps be integrated into
>> the mailing-list system where one can post by replying
>> (negating the need
>> for a separate forum); or else, it should go somewhere else
>> entirely -
>> perhaps gumtree ;-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> P?ter Nel
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