[ubuntu-za] Workshops

[Sudhashen Naicker]

philip at pinksoft.co.za wrote:

> I would be willing to pay R 300 to come to an Ubuntu Workshop as long 
> as I did not have to drive to far. I would also be happy to present 
> workshops on using TurboCASH on Ubuntu, as long as I don't have to get 
> involved in financing or organising venues.  That said, I don't think 
> it is a business.
>
> On workshops the real question is how much would you pay for a 
> Workshop and how much would an expert be willing to receive to give 
> them? I have this problem in the TurboCASH project. I charge the users 
> R 570 for a 3 hour workshop and I myself am not enthusiatic to do it 
> for less than R 2000. In the end I forego it because I can never find 
> enough payers or presenters willing to work for less. The bother of 
> putting it together, either in a Hotel, in an office or even on the 
> Web is simply doesn't match the demand.
>
> It does not help to lower the price. All that happens then, is that 
> people say they will come and then don't. As you approach the "margin" 
> with around R 150 per person, being the cost of the room the whole 
> affair becomes a burden. I guess this is one of the downsides of the 
> freeloader mentality in Open Source that  essentially we have 
> oursleves to blame for creating.
>
> The posts that I put in this list often suggests that there is a 
> commercial aspect missing to the Ubuntu project that effectively 
> excludes a whole group of business users, who would otherwise 
> participate. The workshops is just one such example, CD distribution, 
> 24/7 support, integration with Windows are others,  Any attempt to 
> talk this way doesn't raise my popularity, so I have effectively 
> stopped bringing this up. However for those of you totally convinced 
> that jolly-hockey- sticks-and- whose-round -is it- anyway-approach is 
> totally the way to go, you might want to take a  look at these graphs. 
> Alexa graphs are independent views of Internet activity. While they 
> have their flaws, believe me you can trust them more that the 
> utterings of the web site owners.
>
> http://www.turbocash.net/developer/philip/Alexa/ubuntu.jpg
>
> http://www.turbocash.net/developer/philip/Alexa/ubuntu2.jpg
>
>
>
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>> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:52:54 +0200
>> From: David Rubin <davidrub at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu workshops?
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
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>> I agree there are just tons of applications/features I have never
>> used purely because I never knew about them.
>>
>> Maybe a weekly Workshop/Lesson by any one that wants to take it on.
>>
>> D
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>> Reenen Laurie wrote:
>>   
>>> Having workshops (even if it's ON-LINE via the IRC channel can be a very
>>> cool thing!) 
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> [mailto:ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of
>>> simone at saxonwoldprimary.co.za
>>> Sent: 21-November-2008 12:20
>>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
>>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu workshops?
>>>
>>> Quoting Wikus Cornelius <wikusc at gmail.com>:
>>> I think that is an excellent idea, I would be interested too!
>>> Simone
>>>
>>>     
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am fairly new on this mailing list. Does Ubuntu-za have Ubuntu 
>>>> workshops from time to time? The reason why I ask is Ubuntu has many 
>>>> features that I do not know about and you I cannot really research 
>>>> something that I do not know exists. Another thing is I have a lot of 
>>>> small questions and it would be great to have a bunch of people around
>>>>       
>>>> to discuss it with.
>>>>
>>>> Wikus
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>
um I was thinking more on the lines of a couple of enthusiasts getting 
together - not having to pay for things other than goodwill contributing 
to snacks etc maybe.  Was this more of a commercial idea?