<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div> </div>~ <a target="_blank" href="http://ingafety.wordpress.com">http://ingafety.wordpress.com</a> ~<div> </div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><hr size="1">From: Ndapewa Hangula <hangulanv@yahoo.com> To: Ubuntu-Women <ubuntu-women@lists.ubuntu.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:24:40 PM Subject: [UbuntuWomen] [ANN] New mailing list admins! <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top">Good day all, I have the pleasure to announce that Ruiz and Jamesha have been added to the UW list moderators. In addition, Ruiz and Jamesha are now UW administrators. Thank you for volunteering for these tasks. Kind Regards Ndapewa V. Hangula Fax: +278 666 121 93 <a target="_blank" href="http://pewa.livejournal.com">http://pewa.livejournal.com</a> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss - US author and illustrator (1904 - 1991) --- On Tue, 6/16/09, vid <vid@svaksha.com> wrote: <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> From: vid <vid@svaksha.com> Subject: Re: [UbuntuWomen] Vote for new mailing list admins! To: "Ubuntu-Women" <ubuntu-women@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 6:26 AM <div class="plainMail">On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 07:57, Akkana Peck<<a rel="nofollow">akkana@shallowsky.com</a>> wrote: >> Richardson<<a rel="nofollow">jarich@perltraining.com.au</a>> wrote: >> > b) Why is this a matter for voting? > > Elizabeth Krumbach writes: >> We had several people volunteer. > > I thought that was the point -- to get several new list admins? > I don't understand voting for just one, so I haven't voted. I have not voted too for various reasons. Here is some background information I am being forced to provide : Apparently it was discussed on IRC that Ndapewa and Henrik are not active on the list, and I am the only one who was active. I cannot speak for either of them. Since I was not provided logs of the IRC discussion, #UW is not logged (like other Ubuntu channels), I cannot comment on this. Also UTC 2300 was 4 am'ish for me, so I could not make it to the meet. Trustingly, I sent out the call for admins after this, but reading the logs realised not much was discussed about the need for list admins. Without IRC logs its hard to comment on what is the real issue and all this is terribly confusing. JFTR, voting was not mentioned in the #UW meeting last week. Voting happens only for Ubuntu membership. To the best of my knowledge most loco teams have one or two admins, and to cite two more examples, you can see the <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</a> (the busiest list has just 2 admins) and <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing</a> ... where I have never seen seen calls for admins being voted in. Do correct me if I am wrong. >> Still the discussion *should >> have* happened anyway, with people asking volunteers specifics prior >> to the vote going out but this was never encouraged. > > Most of us probably didn't know there was anything to discuss. > Someone called for volunteers, several people volunteered, > everything's going fine! Then suddenly this voting thing > came out of nowhere and I never figured out on what we > were supposed to be voting or why. TBH, when I became this list admin, all I did was mail Jeff Waugh and was made the admin. I asked Henrik to help out and later made a call on the list : <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2006-March/000081.html">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2006-March/000081.html</a> , where Pewa was the only one who replied. The list grew and that was that. IME, the above is true for most lists where I have applied to be admin at a much later date, when another admin was leaving and suchlike. I have never seen a voting system and frankly am still confused what we are voting for? Is there an issue with existing admins being non-responsive? Does anyone have issues with adding newbies as admins or moderators? If so, lets discuss that. Thanks for reading. -- thanks || vid || <a target="_blank" href="http://www.svaksha.com">http://www.svaksha.com</a> || -- ubuntu-women mailing list <a rel="nofollow">ubuntu-women@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-women">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-women</a> </div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table> </div></div></div> </body></html>