Hi all, <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:09 AM, VidA <<a href="mailto:vid@svaksha.com">vid@svaksha.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Well, I unsub'd him last night itself so he wont get this message, except if he cares to follow the archives. </blockquote></div>Just my $0.02. I'm a newbie to Ubuntu-Women and LinuxChix but my experiences with both have been rather different from Shlomi's. To put it simply - my experiences have been rather pleasant and nice. That may be attributed to the fact that I'm a woman and my ideas about the lists would have a few fundamental differences from his. I still don't understand why he wanted to join Ubuntu Women - I can't believe he'll be as dense as to believe that the two contain radically different members! While I appreciate his thoughts on encouraging women in FOSS, I don't approve of his methodologies - being so patronizing doesn't help! And each list has certain guidelines, some spoken, others unspoken - he needs to accept that if he needs to be accepted and listened to, he needs to adhere to the guidelines. Complaining elsewhere later on about it will not help, and abuse and discrimination ought not be tolerated. If he feels so strongly about it, he should have either "adapted" or played it down after joining this list or just given up and joined elsewhere understanding that his ideas on liberation of women don't exactly match with those of liberated women. And on another note, while I enjoyed reading his intro, I didn't understand the need for such a verbose intro for a mailing list. It was sounding like a trimmed down autobiography! Beats me why someone would do that! Cheers, Kadambari. -- Check out my blog at <a href="http://kadambarid.livejournal.com">http://kadambarid.livejournal.com</a>