<div>Shlomi,</div>
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<div>You do realize that many of the same people that are on Linuxchix/grrltalk are also on Ubuntu-Women?</div>
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<div>Do you think you'll be accepted here as well?</div>
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<div>Saying that we are a "sick group" does nothing to promote your position. I suggest you stop putting the chix down in your posts.</div>
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<div>Caroline,</div>
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<div>Sounds like he's "dabbled" in Ubuntu.</div>
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<div>Amy (a proud member of both ubuntu-women and linuxchix)<br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/5/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Caroline Ford</b> <<a href="mailto:caroline.ford.work@googlemail.com">caroline.ford.work@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">2008/6/5 Shlomi Fish <<a href="mailto:shlomif@gmail.com">shlomif@gmail.com</a>>:<br>> Hi Belinda!<br>
><br>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Belinda A. Lopez <<a href="mailto:dinda@mac.com">dinda@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> And I assume the same Shlomi Fish who finally received this response<br>>> from the Linux Chix Volunteers Lists:<br>
>><br>><br>> Please say "Hi" next time.<br>><br>>> "Shlomi Fish, based on your posts to the Grrltalk list, you are being<br>>> unsubbed and banned from re-subscribing. You are not welcome on<br>
>> Linuxchix, based on your trollish bahavior on Grrltalk. LinuxChix is a<br>>> community for women who like Linux and Free Software, and for women<br>>> and men who want to support women in computing. Your posts have been<br>
>> the opposite of support, and in spite of repeated posts pointing this<br>>> out, you have refused to change your language or behavior."<br>>><br>><br>> Yes, that's me. I didn't feel too sorry being unsubscribed from there.<br>
> Like I said, I'm not here to only dis LinuxChix, but feel they are a<br>> sick group, with many social and philosophical problems, and that they<br>> cannot effectively promote women in FOSS. See this unpublished<br>
> document for more information:<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/hackeress-guide-to-foss/hackeress-guide-to-foss/">http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/hackeress-guide-to-foss/hackeress-guide-to-foss/</a><br>
><br>> (It only has one appendix about LinuxChix, and is more general)<br>><br>> Anyway, I feel our energy is better spent on actually trying to<br>> promote women in FOSS, rather than trying to either reject more<br>
> potential contributors or rant about why we were rejected from other<br>> communities. I brought many good points in my introduction below, and<br>> hope some of them will spark some active discussion and then some<br>
> constructive actions based on its conclusions.<br><br>>>> * A user, developer and advocate of Free and Open Source Software.<br>>>> I've been<br>>>> using Mandriva for a long time as my primary desktop, and am now on<br>
>>> Mandriva<br>>>> Cooker, which is a lot of fun. I've also been using Fedora, Ubuntu,<br>>>> RHEL, and<br>>>> other distributions in different contexts, and the experience was<br>
>>> not so bad.<br><br>And you don't even use Ubuntu?<br><br>Bye Bye!<br><br>--<br>ubuntu-women mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ubuntu-women@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-women@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-women">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-women</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>FUD: Beware of the penguin.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear%2C_uncertainty_and_doubt">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear%2C_uncertainty_and_doubt</a><br><br>Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati. (When all else fails, play dead.) ~~Possum Lodge Motto