[UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu-women IRC channel discussion

Melissa Draper melissa at meldraweb.com
Thu Jan 7 05:53:23 UTC 2010

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 14:03 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach <lyz at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Akkana Peck <akkana at shallowsky.com> wrote:
> >> If the purpose of the channel is deemed to be discussion of official
> >> business of the U-W project, then the TV panel may be more appropriate.
> >> But I'd miss the friendly coffee room discussions.
> >
> > You put your finger on the crux of the issue.
> >
> > We are both a project channel and a social channel that serves the
> > goals of the project through this socialization (being social there
> > has helped a lot of women become more comfortable with being social
> > elsewhere in the project). The project discussion is important and
> > probably should be shared, but one can argue that socialization
> > probably shouldn't be.
> This is why I made the suggestion that we have separate social and
> project channels and only publicly log the project channel.  That'd be
> where meetings and "oh hey can we do this thing to help encourage
> such-and-such activity?" type discussion would go.

In terms of providing the safe-space criteria I mentioned in my last
mail, this is a compromise that would allow the balance between public
and privacy.

Splitting the project stuff off will allow focus on the project and its
initiatives, all of which should be ok to be logged. Splitting the
private stuff off will leave the project and social stuff mingled, which
would be a detriment to the focus of "project" and the proposed logging
would make the social stuff become less candid and more stressful,
eventually leading to a decline.

The #ubuntu-offtopic channel is not logged, so the 96%-male part of the
community gets to socialise without being recorded. I don't see any good
reason why the 50%-woman part that is #ubuntu-women should be forced to
socialise under other conditions.

Melissa Draper

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