[UbuntuWomen] Participation and contribution in UW

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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 05:59, Jan Claeys<lists at janc.be> wrote:
> It sometimes happens that somebody cross-posts to multiple lists (say
> ubuntu-women, debian-women & linuxchix), and the people who answer try
[......]
> That's one of the use-cases for actually looking at mails if they should

Interesting use-case you suggested but allow me to analyse why
cross-posting is less likely and frowned upon in the lists you cite
(Ubuntu, Debian and LC) as each follows different list policies. Fwiw,
folks from Debian have thus far never cross-posted[1] to UW, and the
most active list on LC,
http://www.linuxchix.org/grrls-only-list-guidelines.html ,  is private
(women-only), unarchived and has a strict "no public quoting without
author permission" policy, making cross-posting replies on the
grrls-only list a *big* taboo. Lastly, Michael Lustfield's analysis[2]
is spot on, a  pattern i have seen here. Allowing folks to post from
any ID will result in sheer waste of time and energy for a spam
problem that will not be solved even by throwing 100 mods at it. There
are better things that need help in Ubuntu.

[1] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index#codeofconduct
[2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2009-June/003243.html

> be approved (just not subscribed or the mail is a little too big but
> useful) or not (e.g. spam/troll).

Quoting[2] again, spam levels has risen dramatically in the last 3.5
years so Henrik, Ndapewa and me moved to the subscriber-only posting
policy which dramatically reduces 99% of spam to manageable levels by
a *single* admin.

To repeat what i suggested earlier, subscribers should post using the
same id they sub'd with to the list.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-women, allows you to
change settings yourself , [quote] To unsubscribe from ubuntu-women,
get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter
your subscription email address: [/quote].  Its that simple, does not
need admin intervention nor an admin who is active on IRC.

Fwiw, i was wondering at the tangential jump in the conversation after
my call to add mods so hopefully I've cleared all the
misunderstandings over moderation that never was.

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