[UbuntuWomen] IRC Meeting Notes: June 12 21:00 UTC 2008

Elizabeth Bevilacqua lyz at ubuntu.com
Sat Jun 21 23:46:03 UTC 2008

Thanks to Emeriste for putting together these meeting minutes.

= Ubuntu-Women IRC Meeting June 12 21:00 UTC 2008 =

{*} The Ubuntu Women project has become very social
  * hypa7ia felt this was one of the most important things the
community could do
  * pleia2 agreed noting that it was cool that people were "sharing
similar experiences, spending time with similar folks, [and] being
supportive" but did not feel this should be everything.
  * hypa7ia agreed.

{*} Duplication of effort continues to be a bothersome problem
  * pleia2 offered http://ubuntu-women.org/getinv.html as an example.
   * The community has better sites like this and UW may be doing a
disservice by creating their own
    * See http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
    * See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
  * The duplication of effort problem justified moving away from doing
Courses and promoting #ubuntu-classroom instead.

{*} The mentoring program
  * hypa7ia suggested positioning UW as more of a mentoring resource
to encourage others to get involved.
  * pleia2 acknowledged this but added that in two years the UW
mentoring program has not yet taken off.
   * Nightrose suggested that it may get better now that we have women
in influential positions.
  * emmajane raised the open question of how many Ubuntu women "have
time and are interested in being a mentor?"
  * It was suggested that finding mentors was easier than finding mentees.
  * emmajane offered that the focus should be on finding women good
mentors regardless of gender.
  * Connecting people with mentors that aren't really committed could
backfire and turn off new comers.
   * There was general agreement and it was affirmed that mentors do
not have to be women, but merely good people.
  * There was general agreement that the UW mentoring project was worthwhile.
  * hypa7ia, Myrtti, and mouz each expressed an interest in receiving
mentorship in packaging.
   * It was suggested that since much of the packaging process is
similar in Debian, Ubuntu-Women could work with Debian-Women to get
mentors for basic tutorials.
    *Myrtti suggested contacting maddog to see if he would like to be
involved/offer suggestions.
  * james_w said he would like to help with mentoring if there was
demand for it.

{*} Should Ubuntu Women continue in its current form?
  *The question was raised by emmajane who cited a lack of action as a
major concern.
  * Ubuntu Women provides valuable support and resources for women in
the Ubuntu community.
   * See http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/WomenAchievers
   * See http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ChallengingSexism
   * See http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Profiles
    * It was affirmed that the Profiles page is looking awesome.
  * emmajane offered that Ubuntu-Women needs to hold itself to the
same standards as other sanctioned groups
   * More activity needs to be seen on the Ubuntu Women Road map.
    * See http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/RoadMap
   * Nightrose offered that Ubuntu Women could do more but what it was
doing is enough.
    * When people post to the list UW responds with help.
   * emmajane noted that every other Ubuntu group has a road map and
reports back to the main project on what has been accomplished.
    * emmajane's articles in Full Circle Magazine were cited by pleia2
as an example of such accomplishments
     * mouz made a 4 month commitment to read FCM and report UW
columns on the list.
     * hypa7ia volunteered to make sure meetings happen more regularly.
   * emmajane reiterated her call for increased clarity, action, and
personal accountability in Ubuntu-Women.

{*} Streamlining Ubuntu-Women and decreasing redundancy
  * Go through the Ubuntu Women website and remove redundancy. Point
to the appropriate general community pages.
   * Remove content that is not sufficiently related to Ubuntu-women's issues.
    * Examples on the wiki include Human-Computer Interaction and
Ubuntu Community Process
    * pleia2 volunteered to head this effort

{*} The next meeting	
  *It was agreed that the next meeting would take place in about a month

After 46 minutes, this meeting of the Ubuntu-Women group was adjourned.

Elizabeth Bevilacqua

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