[UbuntuWomen] [ubuntu-marketing] UWN #51: "... and this evenincluded some wi

Elizabeth Bevilacqua lyz at ubuntu.com
Wed Aug 8 10:12:02 UTC 2007

On 8/7/07, Jennifer Redman <jenred at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been lurking for a while, check the ubuntu-women forum every so often.
> The biggest problem I have with this exchange is the response from the men
> on the marketing list.  Marketing by it's very nature requires that one
> needs to be conciliatory and responsive to criticism from a representative
> sample.

Thank you for speaking up Jennifer! I appreciate your support.

I agree that the response from some on the Marketing list is the
biggest problem here. The fellow who actually wrote the piece for the
UWN apologized to me privately and said he just wasn't thinking (not
uncommon). It was a simple mistake so I suggested a correction, and I
certainly didn't expect them to get so defensive about a correction.

We're working to change the culture of Ubuntu to make the presence of
women more common so even when people "aren't thinking" they'll
remember that women are around in more than just their capacity as
wives. But we're certainly not there yet.

> Whatever happened to:
> "You know you're right, we didn't think through how "and wives" would be
> interpreted.  Thanks for pointing this out, we'll publish a correction and
> be sure to use more inclusive verbiage in the future."
> Why does everything have to be an argument?

*Nod* - And the amusing thing is that they DID publish a correction on
the wiki, but never said so in the thread. Melissa's blog post on the
subject is what pointed me to it.

This is important. It was not the whole Marketing team who was behind
Martin/bueno's comments. There are people who aren't speaking up and
are listening to corrections and making them.

Elizabeth Bevilacqua

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