2017/12/04 22:09 "Xen" <<a href="mailto:list@xenhideout.nl">list@xenhideout.nl</a>>: > > Joel Rees schreef op 04-12-2017 0:56: > > >> Did you miss the part where some guy who was doing it for a living in 2009 gave a description if what he did and said explicitly how sucessful he was and gave some background on why the usual case, recovering data from a heavily used HD, was more successful than from a once-used, practcally empty HD? > > > One last thing, I asked a forensics guy and here is the epilogue from Gutmann himself: > > <a href="https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html#Epilogue">https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html#Epilogue</a> > > The forensics guy says there is no validity to the claims whatsoever. > > And that guy on that forum might just as well have been trolling. > > And also: > > >>> You make some really vague statements. > > >> The air you breathe is all around you. Which direction should I point when telling you that air exists? > > > Since you give no direct answers I can only assume that you have none. > > Which is what I originally wanted to say... :-/. > > I guess I have been trolled. > > > >>> You also don't allude which companies offer these (explicit) services. >> >> >> I guess you didn't look at the URL as you read the second one? > > > That was not a company doing that work. That was a training/expertise centre on general computer security knowledge. > > An extremely broad consultancy firm, basically. > > So yeah. > > Debunked. What was debunked?