<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/08/2014 5:46 AM, Robert Heller wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:201408251946.s7PJk9kG017455@sharky2.deepsoft.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">At Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:39:23 -0400 "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com"><ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM</a> describes it as oriented toward server virtualization, and recommends VirtualBox, Parallels Workstation (or Parallels Desktop for Mac), or VMware Player/Server for other applications. Does your experience differ from that? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I use XEN (similar to KVM in some ways) on my CentOS 5 *desktop*. It is *far easier* (for me) to deal with and manage virtual machines. While the desktop machine does run 24/7, the VMs generally don't. I do use KVM on a CentOS 6 server and have one VM running Ubuntu 14.04 that is itself also a server. I expect that when I get around to upgrading my CentOS 5 desktop to CentOS 6, I will use KVM. I have used VBox on a Debian 7 machine. VBox is a total pain in the ass to deal with -- I really didn't like it at all. I have used VMware system way back when and it too was a pain in the ass to deal with. What XEN and KVM bring are the ability to use 'real logical disks' for the VM's disk space (I use LVM logical volumes), which means doing backups is straight forward: I can create a LVM snapshop volumn and then mount and back that up like a 'normal' filesystem, whether the VM is running or not. +1 for KVM... </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> On 8/25/2014 1:18 PM, Martinx - Â‚Â¸ Â‚Â§ ÂƒÂ¼ ÂƒÂ Â‚Âº wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">+1 for KVM... You just need to run: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-virt ...to have a fully operation, working out-of-the-box, hypervisor. It will run much better/smooth than VirtualBox or VMWare. On 25 August 2014 06:05, BONNET, Frank <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:frank.bonnet@esiee.fr">frank.bonnet@esiee.fr</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:frank.bonnet@esiee.fr"><mailto:frank.bonnet@esiee.fr></a>> wrote: Hello Have a look to KVM it's free 2014-08-24 18:19 GMT+02:00 Peter Goggin <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:petergoggin@bigpond.com">petergoggin@bigpond.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:petergoggin@bigpond.com"><mailto:petergoggin@bigpond.com></a>>: I have installed ubuntu 14.04 on my test machine and installed Wine. I can get my Genealogy program(FTW) to install and run properly. I cannot get the transcription program I use (WinBMD7) to run after installing. The install creates two shortcuts on the desktop and neither runs the program. I have opened the directories under .wine and tried to run the executables, using wine program loader, but again the program would not start. Since I cannot find a direct replacement for MS Access I am considering running Windows in a virtual machine. I understand that the two main programs are VMWare and VirtualBox. Most of my laptops have 2Gb of memory. Will this be sufficient to allow me to have Ubuntu as the main OS and run Windows XP in a virtual machine? Both the ubuntu and the windows are 32 bit versions. Regards Peter Goggin I --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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Use Wine. This has the advantage all datafiles are visible from ubuntu. The main problem is that some programs refuse to run.<br> 2. Use Vbox. I have loaded vbox and can run my programs using aXP virtual machine. However I cannot see the data files from Linux. I have set up a shared data older in Linux and set up Virtualbox to point to it. However when running the XP virtual machoine it cannot see them and asks me to load a cd mimage. It implies this should be available through a directory, but I cannot find where the systems says it should be.<br> 3. Start over again with KVM. If I do this is sharing linux folders wih the virtual machines easier?<br> <br> Regards<br> <br> <br> Peter Goggin<br> <br /><br /> <hr style='border:none; color:#909090; background-color:#B0B0B0; height: 1px; width: 99%;' /> <table style='border-collapse:collapse;border:none;'> <tr> <td style='border:none;padding:0px 15px 0px 8px'> <a href="http://www.avast.com/"> <img border=0 src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" /> </a> </td> <td> <p style='color:#3d4d5a; font-family:"Calibri","Verdana","Arial","Helvetica"; font-size:12pt;'> This email is free from viruses and malware because <a href="http://www.avast.com/">avast! Antivirus</a> protection is active. </p> </td> </tr> </table> <br /> </body> </html>