<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Liam Proven <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lproven@gmail.com" target="_blank">lproven@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On 5 August 2014 15:33, Dick Dowdell <<a href="mailto:dick.dowdell@gmail.com">dick.dowdell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Sorry, Liam. Bottom posting ceased to be the email norm a long time ago.<br>
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</div>Not on mailing lists, happily.<br>
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Personally I read from the top of the page to the bottom, so I<br>
bottom-quote; perhaps you do not. :¬)<br>
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I know that poor-quality proprietary tools like Outlook can't handle<br>
it well, but then, are we not all FOSS users here?<br>
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> With current hardware, virtualization has become commonplace in commercial<br>
> computing. As a software developer (40+ years), I need to be able to run<br>
> clients and servers of multiple OSs to develop and test my work. I can not<br>
> afford to reboot to switch OSs and I often need multiple VMs running at the<br>
> same time. VirtualBox is easy. I currently have 1 Windows and 4 Linux VMs<br>
> running on a Ubuntu host i5 machine with 8 GB RAM and 2 TB of disk. I can<br>
> add and remove guest VMs quickly and easily. I can also save unused VMs and<br>
> restore them as needed.<br>
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</div>I am not sure what you're saying here; it doesn't seem to be a reply<br>
to my point?<br>
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I am not arguing against VBox -- indeed right now I am defending it in<br>
a thread over on the Ubuntu Server list. But I don't see it as a<br>
replacement for running OSes on the bare metal.<br>
<br>
If, for instance, I want to run a current game -- something I very<br>
rarely do, but I admit to a sneaking fondness for Portal -- then I<br>
wouldn't use a Windows VM, I'd use the real thing running natively on<br>
my machine.<br>
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I am abroad using a notebook, but I still have a 1TB disk in my<br>
machine along with the SSD that it boots off. Yes, in a notebook.<br>
Space is pretty cheap these days, so I keep both a real physical<br>
install of Windows around as well as a VM. I think my 1TB notebook<br>
drive was well under £100 earlier this year.<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br>Liam,
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I cannot claim to be much of a gamer, so I'll have to defer to you on that issue. I guess that my point is that with hardware-level virtualization, which is required by the current generation of VirtualBox and VMware, a VM is pretty damn close to bare metal performance. Unfortunately, I don't think that that includes accessing a high-powered video card.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">If one is not a gamer, VBox is far more convenient than dual booting.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Cheers!</div></div>