Not using Windows 8, but my Windows 8 beta download under the gmail <a href="mailto:chrisie.echo4ever@gmail.com">chrisie.echo4ever@gmail.com</a> was stolen from my downloads folder in my laptop on download... I have a clone. sent from my LG SPECTRUM <div class="gmail_quote">On May 29, 2013 4:01 AM, "Liam Proven" <<a href="mailto:lproven@gmail.com">lproven@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On 28 May 2013 16:51, Basil Chupin <<a href="mailto:blchupin@iinet.net.au">blchupin@iinet.net.au</a>> wrote: > Correct me if I am wrong but Win 7 does not require UEFI, even if the mobo > has UEFI; Win 8 on the other hand probably does require UEFI to function. > > Both my computer and my wife's have UEFI motherboards but UEFI is turned > off. You're wrong. UEFI is a kind of motherboard firmware. It is a hardware feature. No version of Windows or Linux *requires* it. Windows 7 and 8 both support it natively; older versions require the UEFI to have legacy BIOS emulation. It is the norm on Itanium (IA64) systems. It is becoming normal with x86-64 systems now. Part of this is that MS *require* system builders to use it to get the marketing sticker that says "compatible with Windows 8". This requires UEFI and its "Secure Boot feature" which requires code-signing on OS boot loaders. I personally think that this is anti-competitive behaviour by MS, attempting to prevent vendors shipping Linux or users installing it. It is only "required" for MS marketing & promotional purposes, nothing else. -- Liam Proven • Profile: <a href="http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile" target="_blank">http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile</a> Email: <a href="mailto:lproven@cix.co.uk">lproven@cix.co.uk</a> • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: <a href="mailto:lproven@hotmail.com">lproven@hotmail.com</a> • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: <a href="tel:%2B44%2020-8685-0498" value="+442086850498">+44 20-8685-0498</a> • Cell: <a href="tel:%2B44%207939-087884" value="+447939087884">+44 7939-087884</a> -- ubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div>