My proof is in the applicants I've vetted out when applying to work for us, a uni degree etc is worthless in many cases I've seen, I'll take a 17yo high school dropout who can show he/she knows their stuff, over a 22 yo uni grad with no real experience <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Joep L. Blom <<a href="mailto:jlblom@neuroweave.nl">jlblom@neuroweave.nl</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">On 03/06/11 08:36, Nick Edwards wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> and no a degree in IT is not worth the paper it is written on these days, except maybe a CCIE. </blockquote> </div> It's only the ignorant that write statements without proof. Where is the proof for the above statement?? Dr. J.L. Blom MD Ph.D (I use my titles practically never!) Joep </blockquote></div>